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Any Suggestions?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:29 pm
by Commander
I recently purchased a Taurus 24/7 Pro Compact in 9mm. On its first trip to the range, it seemed to be shooting to the left. I wrote it off as me not being used to the new gun. Saturday, I took it to the range again and noticed the same thing. Curious, I mounted two targets side by side. I shot one with my M&P 9mm and the other with the Taurus. The targets are below. Is there something that I can do to correct this? or is it something that I am doing?

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Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:12 am
by JasonH
Is it possible that the Taurus has a little bit of a longer or heavier trigger pull which is causing you to pull to the left a bit?

The heavier the pull the more to the down or left some people shoot (if they're right handed).

Just a thought.

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:23 am
by nuparadigm
You might want to drift your rear sight to the right (incrementally) until you're hitting where you aim.

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:30 am
by CompVest
Well the obvious solution is to sale the Taurus!
or
Have someone else that is a reliable shot shoot it. Without seeing you shoot it is impossible to tell you whether it is you or the gun. JasonH has the right idea sight unseen.

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:00 am
by RiverRat
I have seen a chart on this related to your grip. Low, to the left is where I shoot and was related to too large a gun grip for my hand. I figured this out by going between my XD45 and my wife's XD40 which I was dead on target with. Her grips were slightly smaller, which changed the position of my finger on the trigger the way I naturally gripped her pistol.

Some of the competition shooters on the forum should have more detailed (valid) advise on how you can correct.

In my case, I went from a double stack 45 (XD45) to a single stack 1911 which corrected my finger position on the trigger. Of course, now with my XD45, I try to compensate....knowing I will be low and left about an inch or two......but I have to think about it.


Here are some charts I found;

http://www.f-r-i.com/chart.htm

http://home.earthlink.net/~potomac008/P ... 0Wheel.htm

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:56 pm
by OverEasy
I would try shooting from a rest (sandbag) of some kind or let somebody else shoot the gun before I moved the sights.
I have a subcompact Glock that I tend to shoot low and to the left with if I'm not real careful about my grip.(right handed)
I can shoot that same gun left handed and I tend to shoot low and to the right.
Tightening your grip as you squeeze the trigger is most likely the cause. That's my problem with the small gun. If I get a proper grip and concentrate I can keep a group centered up pretty good.

Is your M&P 9mm a larger gun? I don't have the same problem with my larger guns.

Regards, OE

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:01 pm
by scootergeek
Definitely don't adjust your sights just yet, that would be actually making your issue worse if it's your shooting grip or stance. Try the bench rest thing with a bag rest first.

Better yet print this and tape it to your target next time out at the range.

http://www.bghi.us/targets/rh_correction.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:36 pm
by nuparadigm
scootergeek wrote:Definitely don't adjust your sights just yet, that would be actually making your issue worse if it's your shooting grip or stance. Try the bench rest thing with a bag rest first.

Better yet print this and tape it to your target next time out at the range.

http://www.bghi.us/targets/rh_correction.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
His M&P target demonstrates that he's doing allright (with the exception of the two fliers at 5 & 7 o'clock). The problem is his sights on the Taurus.

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:52 pm
by bryang
:iagree: I agree that the most important part of shooting accurately is in your grip and trigger pull. I was shooting low left and it was my trigger pull that was not consistent. One of the ways I worked on my trigger pull was dry fire with a laser fitted and watch closely to keep the laser on target during the trigger stroke and especially when the trigger releases and the "shot breaks."

-geo

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:41 pm
by Commander
I appreciate the input.....Last time out, I did experiment with my pull on my trigger finger...didn't seem to make much difference....I think I'm going to have someone else shoot the Taurus and get their opinion....Just looking at the gun, the rear sight appears to be off set to the left...but logic would say that would make it shoot to the right....

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:21 am
by nuparadigm
Commander wrote:I appreciate the input.....Last time out, I did experiment with my pull on my trigger finger...didn't seem to make much difference....I think I'm going to have someone else shoot the Taurus and get their opinion....Just looking at the gun, the rear sight appears to be off set to the left...but logic would say that would make it shoot to the right....
The group travels in the same direction as the rear sight.

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:54 am
by CompVest
Maybe it is his shooting and the sights on the M&P are off so it looks likes he is shooting it better then the Taurus. So maybe the sights on the Taurus are on!

Just thought I would throw that in! :coolgleamA:

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:47 pm
by asahi1234
Sell the Taures and get a better gun. Qaulity not qanity.

Re: Any Suggestions?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:46 pm
by bdickens
Taurus makes a perfectly fine pistol; there's nothing wrong with them. I have a 1st gen. PT111 Millenium that shoots just fine.