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I gave it a try and it seemed to work out pretty well with my service model .40 XD. I didn't want to pull a Plaxico so I was carrying w/o one in the chamber.

Good/bad idea?

There is definitely additional lag time in acquiring a proper grip before drawing.

Have you tried it sitting yet? (I.E. in your vehicle, at a restaurant)

Don't assume you will be able to stand if presented with a threat.

Good point. I tried this as I was walking to and from the corner store. When i got back I sat down on the couch just to see if it would be highly uncomfortable or not. That was okay but yeah perhaps for extended periods of time not so much. Also I hadn't practiced drawing from sitting.

At anyrate I think I'll only be using that method on quick walks to/from.

atxgun wrote:Good point. I tried this as I was walking to and from the corner store. When i got back I sat down on the couch just to see if it would be highly uncomfortable or not. That was okay but yeah perhaps for extended periods of time not so much. Also I hadn't practiced drawing from sitting.

At anyrate I think I'll only be using that method on quick walks to/from.

Any (legal) mode of carry is better than NOT carrying IMO.

However, some modes of carry can severely limit your ability to make a smooth/quick presentation.

I only mention the "seated position" because... if you were in a vehicle with your seatbelt across your lap, a weapon down deep in your pocket might be difficult to access.

Ultimately, you will need to decide what mode of carry is best for you...under the majority of conditions.

Great question.

flintknapper wrote: However, some modes of carry can severely limit your ability to make a smooth/quick presentation.

I only mention the "seated position" because... if you were in a vehicle with your seatbelt across your lap, a weapon down deep in your pocket might be difficult to access.

I totally agree this would not be ideal in a car situation. One of the reasons I considered it to "work well" while walking though was it was not deep down in the pocket. It was concealed by jeans up through the trigger guard with the pistol grip protruding out, allowing for somewhat decent access.

I plan on pocket carrying a Ruger LCP, and I figure that it will have to come out of the pocket when I sit down in the car. In fact, I had a situation just this week that convinced me that the gun has to be more accessible than buried in a pocket while sitting. I almost needed mine, and there would not have been time to draw had it been in my front pocket.

I guess I can put it under my leg, in the door pocket, under the center console? Anyone "ashtray" carry?

I tried pocket carrying my LCP and it just didn't work for me. I got a front pocket holster, and sitting down I couldn't get it out. I tried a wallet type holster for the back pocket and when you sit down it would release the mag...so I gave up and bought an IWB holster and everything is fine now. However, I wear Levis most of the time and that probably had something to do with.

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I carry my BUG in my weak-side front pocket, but I've never considered trying to carry primary that way, or carry something as big as a Service XD in a regular pocket (as opposed to a honkin' cargo pocket ).

I frequently carry my Ruger LCP in my front jean's pocket as a BUG or as the primary when only out to really, really safe places (whatever those are today?) or more normally with my Kimber Ultra CDP at the 9 o' clock (I'm a lefty) as the primary with a spare mag in my jean's watch pocket.

In my truck, my Kimber TLE II rests ready in the door pocket with 2 mags nearby and 5 more in the console, so I don't consider getting to my LCP while sitting belted in as a hindrance to ready access.

I regularly carry my NAA Pug (.22 Mag single-action mini revolver) in a little pocket holster in my front jeans pocket.
It's not a quick-draw setup, and it's a real challenge to get it out while sitting. But it's there, usually as a backup to my primary weapon.

CHLSteve wrote:I plan on pocket carrying a Ruger LCP, and I figure that it will have to come out of the pocket when I sit down in the car. In fact, I had a situation just this week that convinced me that the gun has to be more accessible than buried in a pocket while sitting. I almost needed mine, and there would not have been time to draw had it been in my front pocket.

I guess I can put it under my leg, in the door pocket, under the center console? Anyone "ashtray" carry?

I have a couple of 5.11 Tactical Holster Shirts for my LCP when it's not being pocket carried. It serves me well, and is accessible from just about any position you're likely to be in during your day. Draw is similar to a shoulder holster where the barrel faces down. I wear an unbottoned short-sleeve button up shirt (work/bowling shirt) for cover over it. It's a super comfortable way to carry the LCP, and draw is relatively quick.

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I've pocket carried both a 642 and a P3AT. Not the ideal solution, but it works in a pinch. But, I think it would be almost impossible to get the P3AT drawn from a sitting position as it rides to far down inside my pocket. OTH, the grip of the 642 is very near the top of the pocket, and I could probably get it out from a sitting position. I've never tried it to make sure. But for me, while driving, the seatbelt is the least of my problems. I am overweight, and I am left handed. Getting to my pistol, even IWB, involves me leaning away from the door so that I can get to the gun. It's an issue I'm going to have to address.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I've pocket carried both a 642 and a P3AT. Not the ideal solution, but it works in a pinch. But, I think it would be almost impossible to get the P3AT drawn from a sitting position as it rides to far down inside my pocket. OTH, the grip of the 642 is very near the top of the pocket, and I could probably get it out from a sitting position. I've never tried it to make sure. But for me, while driving, the seatbelt is the least of my problems. I am overweight, and I am left handed. Getting to my pistol, even IWB, involves me leaning away from the door so that I can get to the gun. It's an issue I'm going to have to address.

Someone should start a separate thread on this.

This would make an excellent subject to discuss (presentation/shooting from a vehicle).

If you've never done it....you will find it does pose a certain number of problems.

As far as "leaning" away from the window, I don't see it being a major stumbling block unless you are concerned with "tipping your hand". Being a "lefty" you probably enjoy a slight advantage if you actually had to shoot from the drivers seat (with window down). Conversely, things can get a bit crowded if your window is up...and you need to lean away from it in order to make room to point your weapon.

It is not a bad idea to lean away from the window anyway (glass will fly both directions). This will only occur once (unless shooting through the laminated windshield). Leaning away also creates a small amount of distance (good when the threat is right at your window), it lowers your profile...and permits you to extend your arm a little (you don't want to have to shoot weak hand, or from retention/compressed high ready, if you don't have to).

There are so many variables and techniques to learn when considering defense from a vehicle. Many of us spend a good portion of our day in our vehicles, so these skills might be something good to discuss.

Increasingly, it seems like we are more likely to run into a "hothead" while in traffic...than just about any other place except a soccer game.

Impossible for me. I tried jean pocket carry with a 642 and as long as I was standing/walking there was no problem but as soon as I tried to sit down forget it. First off it was very uncomfortable and second if I had to present the thing there is no way I could have done it fast. Mind you, these jeans were very very loose (two sizes to big). This experience sorta burnt me out on pocket carry. Maybe a LCP or Kel-Tec but the 642 is the smallest I have.

When I don't have my G19 in the VM2...I like to carry my S&W snubbie in a nemesis holster which works perfect for me in my front pockets (jeans or shorts).