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For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:12 am
by AFJailor
This past week at the range we had a shooters M9 (Beretta 92FS) break while firing. This is a pretty common occurrence, its usually one of the locking lugs on the falling locking block.

I attempted to clear the weapon out and found that the slide wouldn't move to the rear, so i finagled (sp?) it until I could get the round out of the chamber and then after some more tinkering was able to disassemble it. I once again found that one of the lugs on the falling locking block had been sheared off, not only that but one set of rails on the frame had also sheared off.

I was surprised at how clean the break was on both parts so I put it back together and did a function check. Everything worked fine as if nothing was wrong!

After all the shooters had finished qualification I took 100 9mm rounds and shot them through the severely broken M9 at a 25 meter target. Not only did all rounds fire but they all were on target.

I was pretty impressed with the fact that it still functioned being so jacked up. Although I was not that impressed that it had a catastrophic malfunction while firing.

Take what you want from my experience, but the M9 is a pretty tough workhorse...even if its broken.

You should probably also know that we fire over half a million 9mm rounds a year through around 100 M9's, so they take a lot of punishment.

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:28 pm
by mr surveyor
maybe you should go over to the Beretta forum and share that in a little "discussion" they have going over there ;-) It's a pretty lively "debate" running.


surv

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:08 am
by RECIT
They are awesome pistols in my opinion. I guess anything can and will break with excessive wear and use. Glad it wasn't mine though.

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:24 am
by NTexas_V-Star
This wasn't at the Red River Firearms CHL class saturday the 24th, was it?

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:18 pm
by WarHawk-AVG
mr surveyor wrote:maybe you should go over to the Beretta forum and share that in a little "discussion" they have going over there ;-) It's a pretty lively "debate" running.


surv
And where would that be?

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:35 pm
by AFJailor
NTexas_V-Star wrote:This wasn't at the Red River Firearms CHL class saturday the 24th, was it?
No I am a weapons instructor for the Air Force.

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:46 pm
by Texd40
mr surveyor wrote:maybe you should go over to the Beretta forum and share that in a little "discussion" they have going over there ;-) It's a pretty lively "debate" running.


surv

That would be http://berettaforum.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I gotta agree. The Beretta FS92 is a workhorse.

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:27 am
by NTexas_V-Star
AFJailor wrote:
NTexas_V-Star wrote:This wasn't at the Red River Firearms CHL class saturday the 24th, was it?
No I am a weapons instructor for the Air Force.

There was also some problems with a Beretta 92 at my CHL class.

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:38 am
by mr surveyor
Texd40 wrote:
mr surveyor wrote:maybe you should go over to the Beretta forum and share that in a little "discussion" they have going over there ;-) It's a pretty lively "debate" running.


surv

That would be http://berettaforum.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I gotta agree. The Beretta FS92 is a workhorse.


actually, this was the particular thread I was hinting at:

http://www.berettaforum.net/vb/showthread.php?t=45107" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

it was lively while it lasted.

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:01 am
by waffenmacht
I guess I should start a "For those thinking about buying a Glock" thread. We were at the range the other day, firing the issued Glock 23's and one completely lost a slide. The slide stop spring broke, the slide stop failed, and the entire weapon came apart. Was a shocking sight. Replaced the spring and we are back in action. Guns are machines, and machines will fail. Sometimes you can forsee the failure and prevent it, sometimes you cant.

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:31 am
by MTICop
AF Jailor,

Are you at Lackland? If so, we should get together and shoot sometime.

Let me know.

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:08 pm
by AFJailor
Im at Hurlburt Field.

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:20 pm
by E10
NTexas_V-Star wrote: There was also some problems with a Beretta 92 at my CHL class.
Yeah, there was a problem with one in my class, too - it wouldn't miss!

I owned one for almost 20 years and had exactly ZERO problems with it, even though it was a 92F, the early model that was suspected of having defective steel in the slide. VERY accurate, VERY reliable, and shot everything I fed it. My only problem with it is it was hard to conceal, so I got a Beretta 9000S F in 9mm. Same Beretta quality and reliability in a smaller, more easily concealed package. But it's hard to beat the 92.

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:09 pm
by M9FAN
:clapping: Love my M9!

Re: For those thinking on buying the Beretta 92fs:

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:40 pm
by NTexas_V-Star
E10 wrote:
NTexas_V-Star wrote: There was also some problems with a Beretta 92 at my CHL class.
Yeah, there was a problem with one in my class, too - it wouldn't miss!

I owned one for almost 20 years and had exactly ZERO problems with it, even though it was a 92F, the early model that was suspected of having defective steel in the slide. VERY accurate, VERY reliable, and shot everything I fed it. My only problem with it is it was hard to conceal, so I got a Beretta 9000S F in 9mm. Same Beretta quality and reliability in a smaller, more easily concealed package. But it's hard to beat the 92.

I wasn't hating on Beretta...or that model. I actually am a fan of the style of the gun. Just that particular specimen wasn't working worth a crap. Due to poor maintenance and cleaning.