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pistol grip on shotgun (defense)
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:49 pm
by JB3
When I bought a Maverick shotgun for home defense,

I also got a pistol grip for it. I have tried several scenarios (breach open and unloaded) with it and the only advantage I see is in very close quarters IE. around door ways. It seems to be a kind of unstable with both hands moving around. I was wondering if I should work more on this or just throw the grip in the "didn't work drawer" Thanks John

Re: pistol grip on shotgun (defense)
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:03 pm
by txinvestigator
JB3 wrote:When I bought a Maverick shotgun for home defense,

I also got a pistol grip for it. I have tried several scenarios (breach open and unloaded) with it and the only advantage I see is in very close quarters IE. around door ways. It seems to be a kind of unstable with both hands moving around. I was wondering if I should work more on this or just throw the grip in the "didn't work drawer" Thanks John

Are you referring to using the pistol grip only, and no shoulder stock? I have tried that, unless you are VERY close I don;t like it. You cannot aim properly with a pistol-grip only.
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:11 pm
by JB3
Yes I was talking about just the grip without the stock. I got one from Pachmayer for shock absorption but, it just doesn't work for me and I was wondering if there really was any advantage to them , I guess not John
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:23 pm
by Boma
Maybe get the pistol grip shotgun in a 410 gauge or 20 gauge. That would work well. =)
Re: pistol grip on shotgun (defense)
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:52 pm
by flintknapper
txinvestigator wrote:JB3 wrote:When I bought a Maverick shotgun for home defense,

I also got a pistol grip for it. I have tried several scenarios (breach open and unloaded) with it and the only advantage I see is in very close quarters IE. around door ways. It seems to be a kind of unstable with both hands moving around. I was wondering if I should work more on this or just throw the grip in the "didn't work drawer" Thanks John

Are you referring to using the pistol grip only, and no shoulder stock? I have tried that, unless you are VERY close I don;t like it. You cannot aim properly with a pistol-grip only.
Agreed, also makes the weapon much easier to "take away".
Re: pistol grip on shotgun (defense)
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:21 pm
by ElGato
flintknapper wrote:txinvestigator wrote:JB3 wrote:When I bought a Maverick shotgun for home defense,

I also got a pistol grip for it. I have tried several scenarios (breach open and unloaded) with it and the only advantage I see is in very close quarters IE. around door ways. It seems to be a kind of unstable with both hands moving around. I was wondering if I should work more on this or just throw the grip in the "didn't work drawer" Thanks John

Are you referring to using the pistol grip only, and no shoulder stock? I have tried that, unless you are VERY close I don;t like it. You cannot aim properly with a pistol-grip only.
Agreed, also makes the weapon much easier to "take away".
Me too, because of a bad neck I don't shoulder a shotgun even to shoot skeet, but I want that stock nestled under my arm, more control and more accurate.
Re: pistol grip on shotgun (defense)
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:22 pm
by lrb111
JB3 wrote:When I bought a Maverick shotgun for home defense,

I also got a pistol grip for it. I have tried several scenarios (breach open and unloaded) with it and the only advantage I see is in very close quarters IE. around door ways. It seems to be a kind of unstable with both hands moving around. I was wondering if I should work more on this or just throw the grip in the "didn't work drawer" Thanks John

Mine is the 18.5 inch barrel. With the pistol grip it helps if you have a sling on the gun that goes over your shoulder. It means that you can pull down on the gun/sling combo, and get a much more solid/secure position.
It will still spin to any angle. If i had to fight may way back to my main weapon, the 12 guage Maverick would be that weapon.
Re: pistol grip on shotgun (defense)
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:39 pm
by Chris
in my last department, one guy qualified with his 870 with only a pistol grip. none of us thought he could do it, but he did; slugs and all from 25 yards. he did it so he could carry it on SWAT as a secondary for breeching. a folded up shotgun is handy to have loaded with those powder breeching rounds, but he didn't use it for anything other than that. he shouldered a shorty rifle for that.
if i'd known you wanted a pistol grip, i could have given you the pistol grip i bought for mine 10 years ago. it hasn't been on my shotgun in...almost 10 years now. :)
i have a maverick 88 with an ATI collapsible stock. it's far better. i like being able to shorten the length of pull when i'm wearing body armor, and the pistol grip helps take some of the recoil out of it. it's been a partner of mine for my entire career. i've carried it over department issued 870s.
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:19 pm
by jbirds1210
I realize that I am the minority here, but I keep my old beat up pistol grip 12 gauge accessible in my bedroom. I have always thought of my old shotgun as a reliable friend, especially if I have a few seconds warning before the trouble starts. I paid the big price of fifty bucks for this thing in a garage sale and had a machinist shorten it up for me.
An example of this is the other night I had a gentleman standing in my driveway shouting (obviously intoxicated) to another unknown person. The man never looked toward my house, but he was standing on the very edge of my property. I did not feel immediately threatened by this man, but was unsure if his intoxicated state allowed him to think rationally. My shotgun felt good sitting next to my chair.
Unless I am in the shower or asleep I keep my handgun on me (something I could not say before becoming addicted to this forum) and keep "old betsy" nearby. I have also taken this old ugly thing along for a night in the hotel room.
I agree that aiming this thing is not easy to do, but with bird shot and very short distances such as those in my residence I feel that it is a very effective weapon. I would not trust my load past the 15-20 feet which I would need it.
Jason
Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:58 am
by JB3
thanks for all the info on different platforms. I have always loved to tinker around with things and these views will give me more to experiment with. I just got a tang sight for my 62 SA 22 and am going to texas city range, and see if I can get it sighted in @ 50 yds Thank for the help John
Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:35 am
by DaveT
Interesting thread.
Is there such a product as a aftermarket combo shoulder stock and pistol grip on the market ?
If so, anyone know a link ?
Thanks !
Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:52 am
by txinvestigator
DaveT wrote:Interesting thread.
Is there such a product as a aftermarket combo shoulder stock and pistol grip on the market ?
If so, anyone know a link ?
Thanks !
I am ordering this :
http://www.knoxx.com/NewStyleKnoxx/Prod ... Stock.html
Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:52 am
by Tom
DaveT wrote:Interesting thread.
Is there such a product as a aftermarket combo shoulder stock and pistol grip on the market ?
If so, anyone know a link ?
Thanks !
Yup. Try these guys:
http://www.choatemachinetool.com/
I put one on my wife's Mossberg 500 pump to give her a better grip
and thus better control and it worked out perfectly.
I purchased it from Bushmaster at their online store but I see that they no
longer carry this item.
Kind Regards,
Tom
Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:53 pm
by DaveT
Thanks for the replies.
Found what I was looking for today, ordered it a short while ago.
https://securewschent01.websitecomplete ... sp?dept=74#
Was not looking for a collapseable or fold over version, this one should work perfectly on the old Mossberg I keep by the door.......
