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Howdy to all of ya, new to the board here, and frankly just getting intro'd to conceal carry. I actually completed a CHL course several years ago, but never fully submitted all of my paperwork, and thus never got the L part of CHL. Anyway, name is Greg, live up on the high ground of texas just outside of Lubbock.

I travel across the country for work, and for that reason I am seriously considering getting a non resident FL or UT license for a broader acceptance. So here are my questions (and I'm sure that all of this has been discussed at some point in time, if so, post up the link and i'll read from there.)

1. Will a non resident FL or UT licenses satisfy my licensing requirements here at home, or must I get both to be compliant?
2. Is anyone familiar with the process and requirements for either FL or UT? I've searched online for 2 days now and can't seem to find any clear directions. Seems there is some abiguity regarding gun proficiency requirements, class room hours etc.
3. does anyone know of certified instructors for either UT or FL based here in TX

My final statement is a "soapbox" in my research of other states requirements etc. I came to the realization that we are being severly raped as Texas residents. We have the most expensive permit fee of any state that offers CHL/CW Permits. Can anyone justify our additional costs, other than to fill state coffers??????

Anyway, thanks for any info you can give.

Welcome & one of our CHL instructors is a Utah instructor too. Crossfire. She & her husband teach in Rowlet. She will answer all Qs about Utah.
Glad to have you from a Monterrey Plainsman now in Lufkin.

Hi Plainsman wrote:Howdy to all of ya, new to the board here, and frankly just getting intro'd to conceal carry. I actually completed a CHL course several years ago, but never fully submitted all of my paperwork, and thus never got the L part of CHL. Anyway, name is Greg, live up on the high ground of texas just outside of Lubbock.

I travel across the country for work, and for that reason I am seriously considering getting a non resident FL or UT license for a broader acceptance. So here are my questions (and I'm sure that all of this has been discussed at some point in time, if so, post up the link and i'll read from there.)

1. Will a non resident FL or UT licenses satisfy my licensing requirements here at home, or must I get both to be compliant?
2. Is anyone familiar with the process and requirements for either FL or UT? I've searched online for 2 days now and can't seem to find any clear directions. Seems there is some abiguity regarding gun proficiency requirements, class room hours etc.
3. does anyone know of certified instructors for either UT or FL based here in TX

My final statement is a "soapbox" in my research of other states requirements etc. I came to the realization that we are being severly raped as Texas residents. We have the most expensive permit fee of any state that offers CHL/CW Permits. Can anyone justify our additional costs, other than to fill state coffers??????

Anyway, thanks for any info you can give.

1: Yes but if you want the ability to carry in a bunch of states you really want to get the Texas CHL. The Texas CHL is also serves as marksman certification

2: Florida you have to got there. Utah can be done in Texas. There are Utahian instructors here that can help more that will surely help.

3: Both crossfire and Charles Cotton are certified instructors.

Texas actually sends an investigator to check at the courthouse. at the counties you have lived in and at where you work. Instructors have to qualify every 2 years. Texas won't be going to congress asking for a bailout.

Welcome aboard,

Hi Plainsman wrote:My final statement is a "soapbox" in my research of other states requirements etc. I came to the realization that we are being severly raped as Texas residents. We have the most expensive permit fee of any state that offers CHL/CW Permits. Can anyone justify our additional costs, other than to fill state coffers??????

Anyway, thanks for any info you can give.

Welcome to the forum. I hope you will find this to be a welcoming, entertaining and informative place to visit....I have.

The questions have been addressed so I will respond to the soapbox issue.

Texas has a $140 fee for a four year license...$35 per year. Not really too bad considering what else you spend $35 per year to get.

The renewal is $70 for a FIVE year license...$14 per year.

Once you turn 60 every thing is half price, so it goes to $17.50 per year for a new license and $7 per year for a renewal license.

Plus, if your are indigent everything is half price again so under 60 years of age an indigent person gets a new license for$17.50 per year and a renewal for $7 per year and if you are indigent over 60 your new license is $8.75 per year and your renewal is $3.50 per year.

Now Texas may have "the most expensive permit fee of any state", but I hardly feel "raped".

Regards,
Carl

Liberty wrote:2: Florida you have to got there.

That's incorrect. Like Utah (but unlike Texas) there's no requirement for the Florida training to be taken in state. Anywhere is valid.

Florida will also accept a wide range of documented training, including any state's hunter education and any firearms class taught by an NRA instructor. (Unlike Utah and Texas that require a specific curriculum taught by that state's certified instructors.) This makes Florida one of the easier licenses because of easier hoops to jump through.

The initial Florida license is more expensive than Utah and almost as expensive as Texas.

Hi Plainsman wrote:I travel across the country for work, and for that reason I am seriously considering getting a non resident FL or UT license for a broader acceptance. So here are my questions (and I'm sure that all of this has been discussed at some point in time, if so, post up the link and i'll read from there.)

Straight from the horses' mouths.

Utah website

Florida website

One big thing to note, many states will not recognize your non-resident permits even though they have reciprocity with that state. Florida is an example where they honor RESIDENT Utah permits, but not a non-resident permit.

IMO, if you travel very much. you would be better off with a Texas resident permit unless you just need a permit for a state that doesn't have reciprocity with Texas.

Thanks for the feed back on all of this.

I was aware that non resident permits were not as widely accepted as resident permits. So i am weighing my benefits, specifically the states of MN, MI, OH, KY, PA, & CO, these tend to be states that I travel to for work on a frequent basis. I may find it easier to get my TX permit and apply for non residents for a few states, my only issue is that some of my trips are very short notice, as in 2-3 days, not enoug time to submit and recieve.

Anyway, my comment about the cost was just to get folks to think, the use of "raped" was a bit edgy, I'll concede. However, it still stands that TX has the highest licensing fee, most that i found were around or under $100, and most were for a 4 or 5 year period. Fl is $117 but its for a 7 year period. Do i need to do the math for anyone?

With technology today, its ridiculous that we have a "warm body" going to a court house to do background checks, most if not all necessary info is available on line, and there isn't anything that a phone interview couldn't resolve. Its just a case of a government payroll job that is probably uncessary. Furthermore if permit fees were say $75, we could all afford a permit, and those who pay full price wouldn't have to subsidize those that are unable to.

These maps may be of assistance to you:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/LicMaps/ccwmap.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also under Other States on this forum is a map that shows reciprocity.

Welcome and enjoy!

I agree about the price for a Texas gun license. Look at the difference between the fees for address changes on a gun license and a car license. DPS probably prints the cards on the same machine!

The best deal is a Utah license if it covers you in the places you travel.