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The lunatic behind the Binghamton massacre was a pathetic, gun-loving coward who got divorced, lost his job and was driven to depression because he could barely speak English after many years in the United States, officials and people who knew him said yesterday

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04052009/ne ... 162952.htm

This is the most anti-gun biased story I've seen so far.

Anyone find anything else this bad and how do we combat this nonsense? Where did the men go in this country? They certainly aren't in the news media.

Not related to the New York story but it seems like these stories are written from form letter type stories with the tragic details simply filled in around the anti-gun stuff.

http://kdka.com/local/officers.shot.Sta ... 75820.html

A man opened fire on officers during a domestic disturbance call Saturday morning, killing three of them, a police official said.

Friends said 23 year-old Richard Poplawski feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.

Three officers were killed.

In reading the entire story, the second line of the story has nothing to do with why the officers were killed. I guess we're going to be bombarded with every murder story turning into a gun bashing story.

Maybe I didn't notice it before but it looks like I see a "crisis" brewing....

Everytime I read one of these stories it makes me want to do 2 things:

1. Strangle the suspect, if he / she hasnt already expired, for giving the anti's more fuel for their agenda.
2. Strangle the so called "journalists" who write these stories and slather them with their obvious anti-gun bias.

It never ceases to amaze me that crime in areas like South Central LA, DC, Trenton NJ, the south side of Chicago, etc go unnoticed, even though the daily death toll far surpasses stories like the shootings in New York and PA yesterday.

I don't want to be forced to shoot anyone and I think most gun owners are the same way. Some younger or newer gun owners may allow bravado to run their mouth but in reality even they don't want the problems for themselves or for others involved in dealing with such an event. It doesn't matter if the other guy/gal is trying to kill us. It is still a lifetime of knowledge that we were forced to shoot and take the risk that a person who is doing evil things has a possibility of being killed. This isn't a movie or video game where the good guy or bad guy always comes back. This isn't an idealistic rant between one side or the other. This is reality. This is life or death. So, those that have never been shot at and hold immature views of the world should take time to sit down and think before they spout their opinions. I challenge everyone to do the research and put themselves in the place of a potential victim of any violent person. What would they rather have when the wolf is looking for his/her next target? Have they put enough thought into whether they can honestly decide, now, that they will be okay getting harmed, by which I mean things I will not mention here, or killed for their "ideals"? Most, given time to think, will admit they are not okay with allowing a bad guy to do as they wish while knowing they had a choice. Can they live with their decision in that moment when the BG is having his way with them? I have yet to talk to anyone, using that mature argument that did not eventually change their stance from being very or passively anti-gun or self-defense to either being a 2A true believer or at least supportive of our civil rights.

Now, I respect pacifists more than I can express. As long as they have taken the time to know the truth and except the consequences. If they are willing to suffer terrible possibilities because of their beliefs then I encourage and support them to no ends. The problem is most of those who spew their anti-gun/anti-self defense nonsense are not true pacifists. They are simply people that deny the reality of life or are just too young to understand the world is not what they project it to be. I encourage everyone to not take my word and to check for themselves. Do the research in books and on the net. Take the time to prove what I believe is wrong and then come back and make an argument. I do this because I know the truth and I know that any person that does this will not only be on my side but they will have a reason to want to teach others why our rights are worth not only saving but fighting for. This matters and cannot be left to the ignorant or international socialists to decide for us. We must multiply or we will not survive. We have to demand rights over privileges so that we always have the right to choose for ourselves whether we are willing to fight or not. God gave us that right and no person has the power to deny us of that right except ourselves. That is my opinion.

Once the human race become 100% pacifist, I will support banning handguns. Until then, I won't.

Purplehood wrote:Once the human race become 100% pacifist, I will support banning handguns. Until then, I won't.

not even then. There will always be someone like me, who kept theirs.

frazzled wrote:

Purplehood wrote:Once the human race become 100% pacifist, I will support banning handguns. Until then, I won't.

not even then. There will always be someone like me, who kept theirs.

That would not yet be 100% then. Maybe after you.

I do not respect pacifists. Pacifism displays a profound lack of respect for human life and for law and order; by not resisting, the pacifist is making himself an accessory to the crime being comitted against him.

bdickens wrote:I do not respect pacifists. Pacifism displays a profound lack of respect for human life and for law and order; by not resisting, the pacifist is making himself an accessory to the crime being comitted against him.

There are differing degrees and definitions of pacifism. By default, if everyone is a pacifist there is no need to resist as there would be nothing to resist against.

shootthesheet wrote:Now, I respect pacifists more than I can express. As long as they have taken the time to know the truth and except the consequences. If they are willing to suffer terrible possibilities because of their beliefs then I encourage and support them to no ends. The problem is most of those who spew their anti-gun/anti-self defense nonsense are not true pacifists.

I agree. A pacifist wouldn't want the police or anyone else to use force to save them. A true pacifist would never want the government to use violence or the threat of violence to enforce any laws. Not even gun laws.

Have you heard about the letter this guy sent in? Why can't we all just accept that some folks are just nutty as squirrel poop and stop blaming inanimate objects for bad behavior?