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Why is the entire board loaded in a frame?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 5:55 pm
by CleverNickname
The HTML for http://www.texaschlforum.com just loads http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_Forum/index.php. What purpose does this perform? I ask because it doesn't seem to perform any useful function but makes using the site more difficult.

First, since the parent frame's url never changes, it makes it more difficult to bookmark individual pages.

Second, it also causes problems when reading the forum on an iPhone because the iPhone's browser doesn't cache many pages. This means if you're reading a page and then go back a page, the browser often has to reload the entire previous page instead of pulling it from the browser's cache. Then because all the pages are loaded inside a frame tag, the browser reloads http://www.texaschlforum.com instead of the previous page that you really wanted (the previous page in a thread or the previous page in a forum listing).

There's a workaround if you just go to http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_Forum/index.php directly and bypass the page with the frame in it, but in my opinion it would be a good idea just to get rid of the whole frame page entirely. If your only concern is to make the root of the forum show up as http://www.texaschlforum.com then a server-side redirect would probably work better.

Re: Why is the entire board loaded in a frame?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:19 pm
by boomerang
My guess is because it's easier to remember and type.
CleverNickname wrote:There's a workaround if you just go to http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_Forum/index.php directly
That's what I have bookmarked.

Re: Why is the entire board loaded in a frame?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:35 pm
by TexasComputerDude
floating header or footer coming our way?

maybe its a way to keep the url clean so all the old timers on this site can memorize it easily.

iono :headscratch


maybe it cuts down on database access because I know I'm the type to sit and hit refresh every few seconds. since it reloads the frame, it reloads it back to the forum root and maybe... I've gone crosseyed. :shock:

Re: Why is the entire board loaded in a frame?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:27 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
There was a frame at one time, but not now; at least not one of which I'm aware. It's a straight phpBB installation. The TexasCHLform.com is on a re-direct from Godaddy.com. I seem to recall that well over a year ago, there was a way to get to the old frame version, but I deleted the index for that.

I wish I knew what's going on. Could it be part of the normal phpBB installation?

Chas.
CleverNickname wrote:The HTML for http://www.texaschlforum.com just loads http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_Forum/index.php. What purpose does this perform? I ask because it doesn't seem to perform any useful function but makes using the site more difficult.

First, since the parent frame's url never changes, it makes it more difficult to bookmark individual pages.

Second, it also causes problems when reading the forum on an iPhone because the iPhone's browser doesn't cache many pages. This means if you're reading a page and then go back a page, the browser often has to reload the entire previous page instead of pulling it from the browser's cache. Then because all the pages are loaded inside a frame tag, the browser reloads http://www.texaschlforum.com instead of the previous page that you really wanted (the previous page in a thread or the previous page in a forum listing).

There's a workaround if you just go to http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_Forum/index.php directly and bypass the page with the frame in it, but in my opinion it would be a good idea just to get rid of the whole frame page entirely. If your only concern is to make the root of the forum show up as http://www.texaschlforum.com then a server-side redirect would probably work better.

Re: Why is the entire board loaded in a frame?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:42 pm
by Kalrog
Can I suggest you do a CName instead of a redirect?

Re: Why is the entire board loaded in a frame?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:43 pm
by CleverNickname
boomerang wrote: That's what I have bookmarked.
That's what I did too, but other users may not be proficient enough to figure it out.

Re: Why is the entire board loaded in a frame?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:10 pm
by Skiprr
Kalrog wrote:Can I suggest you do a CName instead of a redirect?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Charles can use a CNAME without rebuilding everything. Since the two domain names--texasshooting.com and texaschlforum.com--are hosted separately, and both domains have separate "A" records via one or more registrars, DNS rules prevent you from using a CNAME that also has an "A" resource record on file. Right? Or am I missing something...