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Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 6:45 pm
by Oldgringo
Guys,
This ain't good!
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Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 7:50 pm
by Beiruty
Family violence. It does happen so many times is US.

Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 7:54 pm
by boomerang
The mobile home had been converted to a makeshift gun range.
Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:18 pm
by Skiprr
We don't know details and probably never will. But I agree with Oldgringo: this ain't good for us good guys.
Ain't good at all.
Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:55 pm
by bryang
I agree, I don't see how this can come out anything other than a problem for us when the antis get a hold of it.
-geo
Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:11 am
by A-R
This will be a black eye for us all. But not much we can do about it. Stuff happens. I would still put the crime stats of CHL holders against the general public any day.
Feel bad for the woman and her family.
Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 6:13 am
by longtooth
You are correct about the crime stats for CHLers against even the antis.
Trouble w/ that is they wont tell that story.
This one is not a black eye. It is a real wound to our cause even though he did not use his CHL or instructor status to do the crime.
Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 7:34 am
by lws380
I'd like to see the gun range from a converted mobile home.
I think Jeff Foxworthy just got some more material. "If you convert your mobile home to a shooting range, you may be a redneck".

Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:12 am
by seamusTX
Maybe we will never know what evil or madness led to this killing.
But here are a couple of counterpoints:
Yesterday, a former Houston police officer was found guilty for the second time in the murder-for-hire of his estranged wife in 1994. His first conviction was overturned on appeal.
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Last week, a city council member in Helotes was arrested for the sexual assault of a 14-year-old girl.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_ ... 33512.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_ ... 48212.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As I've said many times, no license, certification, college degree, or sworn oath is a guarantee against evil; and no law can prevent it.
- Jim
Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:07 am
by AEA
lws380 wrote:I'd like to see the gun range from a converted mobile home.
I wondered about this myself........
Both of them being CHL Instructors, I would assume their range was approved by DPS. I would like to see/know what criteria allowed their Trailer/Range to be approved.

Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:47 am
by seamusTX
P.S.: When I see a guy go off the deep end this way, who is 61 years old, has a clean criminal record, no history of mental illness or drug or alcohol abuse, I have to suspect Alzheimer's disease or some other form of dementia. Alzheimer's usually kicks in at later ages, but it is not unheard of even in the 50s.
- Jim
Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:22 am
by bdickens
Something definitely weird is going on.
Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:56 am
by lrb111
AEA wrote:lws380 wrote:I'd like to see the gun range from a converted mobile home.
I wondered about this myself........
Both of them being CHL Instructors, I would assume their range was approved by DPS. I would like to see/know what criteria allowed their Trailer/Range to be approved.

DPS does not approve ranges, now. CHL instructors can establish them themselves.
Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:07 pm
by seamusTX
The only
DPS requirement for ranges is that they conform to all local, state, and federal regulations and allow shooting at 15 yards.
I can easily see a trailer being set up as an indoor range. The story says
trailer, not mobile home. You can get old truck trailers pretty cheap.
If I were inclined to look for bias, I would say that mentioning the trailer is snobby, as well as irrelevant to the story.
- Jim
Re: Texas CHL Instructor in jail for murder
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:24 pm
by AEA
WRONG! - The story says mobile home! Read it again:
"Cook and his wife were both state licensed firearms instructors and taught concealed weapons classes in a mobile home on the couple’s property. The mobile home had been converted to a makeshift gun range.".
I was just wondering as I know that DPS used to have to approve ranges for CHL instruction
And as far as being bias, that was not my intention and as a matter of fact, I live in a Mobile Home ("trailer")myself!