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May 16, 2009
NRA-ILA

Rumor was enough to get you burned as a witch in Salem, Massachusetts. It was enough to get you shot in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. It's enough to get your head chopped off in parts of Iraq infested with madmen claiming to carry out Allah's will.

And if U.S. Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) has his way, it may be enough to prohibit you from acquiring a firearm or federal firearm license, especially if the Attorney General is as opposed to gun ownership as Janet Reno was during the Clinton Administration, and as Eric Holder is today.

Fresh on the heels of a disturbing paper from the Department of Homeland Security, characterizing gun owners as rightwing extremists, on April 29 King introduced H.R. 2159, which he calls the "Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2009."

King, the ranking Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, describes himself as "a strong supporter of the war against international terrorism, both at home and abroad," so without reading the bill one might assume that H.R. 2159 is a legitimate effort to clamp down on genuine terrorists. However, King and his bill's co-sponsors-Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), Mike Castle (R-Del.), Jim Moran (D-Va.), Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.), Mark Kirk (D-Ill.), and Chris Smith (R-N.J.)1-are extreme gun control supporters, and his bill is intended only to give the Executive Branch arbitrary, unaccountable power to stop loyal Americans from acquiring firearms. Here's how:

H.R. 2159 would give "the Attorney General the authority to deny the sale, delivery, or transfer of a firearm or the issuance of a firearms or explosives license or permit to dangerous terrorists. . . . if the Attorney General determines that the transferee is known (or appropriately suspected) to be or have been engaged in conduct constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to terrorism, or providing material support thereof, and the Attorney General has a reasonable belief that the prospective transferee may use a firearm in connection with terrorism."

H.R. 2159 does not, however, impose any requirements or limits on the information the Attorney General could use to make a determination, and it proposes that "any information which the Attorney General relied on for this determination may be withheld from the applicant if the Attorney General determines that disclosure of the information would likely compromise national security."

In stark contrast to the scheme proposed in H.R. 2159, federal law establishes guidelines for the nine categories of persons currently prohibited from possessing firearms, and it protects the right of a person to be told why he is prohibited. The latter is important because a person who is not prohibited can be mistaken for someone who is, due to incomplete or incorrect records in the FBI's database of prohibited persons, or due to being mistaken for a prohibited person on the basis of a similar name or other personal information.

The trash bin of history is full of politically-motivated, authoritarian abuses of peoples' rights. As King and his bill's co-sponsors have shown, however, the concept behind the evil yet remains.

I'll be the first to admit: Its not just democrats that are the problem when it comes to 2A rights.

Though its part of their platform, this shows we face trouble from even "republicans" and must watch everyone.

I hope those in their districts will respond to this outrageous legislation. If not, the rest of us may have to.

I think what really needs to happen is for the Republican leadership to call out anyone who authors a bill that so blatantly contradicts the party platform, and give them the choice of either: A) Dropping support for legislation like this, or B) Continuing their political career in another party. I mean why even have a party and a very clear platform if renegades like King here can just go against them...and face no consequences?!

BTW, this should be done in our Texas legislature as well, but that's another thread.

looks like it is a'fixing to get bad, really bad. I agree, the Republicans, in my opinion, are worse than the Democrats. You would expect something like this from the Dem's...but, the Rep's?? I certainly hope people are paying attention to this outrageous junk that is going on in Washington and throw the bums out! To be honest the both of them are just about as bad as the other...I think it is about time we had another choice. I am tired of picking the lesser of two evils on election day.
We REALLY need change, like back to the Constitution.

-geo

The problem really lies in the lack of good people with real commitment to a system of beliefs that are willing to run.
The job pays if I remember right $7200 a year for this money our Legislator is responsible for keeping administrating 2 or more offices year round, and at least 1 140 day session away from home in Austin. These political races are often uncontested in either the primaries or the November races. There is very little attention given to these race by the media. They happen at the same time as other bigger but less important races such as Governor or Congressman. Most people don't even know the name of their state rep. or senator. Those who serve must be able to leave their primary carreer for 5 months every 2 years. Some manage to do it by serving in ways that enhance their primary careers. Real Estate developers and lawyers mange to do this a lot. Pass the right laws and you can make a lot of money for you, family an friends.

Then there is the issue of Ideological purity. Most thinking people will vary from the ideological purity of a party or leftness/rightness. Those who would follow a party line or be completely locked into a ideological thought would be only rigid robots. There would never be any reason to call or fax them.
While the TSRA does a pretty good job of applying pressure to them. the RKBA isn't all that important to most people. I've noticed that even here not everyone is solidly aligned with the RKBA. Some believe lisensing is good, standards should be held, even that college students shouldn't have guns.

What we really need to do is either find folks we believe in an really support our State Reps and Senators. When they run. We expect a good State Rep. or Senator to sacrifice a lot in order to to a good job. We need to do some sacrificing our selves to get good people those positions.

Liberty wrote:The problem really lies in the lack of good people with real commitment to a system of beliefs that are willing to run.
The job pays if I remember right $7200 a year for this money our Legislator is responsible for keeping administrating 2 or more offices year round, and at least 1 140 day session away from home in Austin. These political races are often uncontested in either the primaries or the November races. There is very little attention given to these race by the media. They happen at the same time as other bigger but less important races such as Governor or Congressman. Most people don't even know the name of their state rep. or senator. Those who serve must be able to leave their primary carreer for 5 months every 2 years. Some manage to do it by serving in ways that enhance their primary careers. Real Estate developers and lawyers mange to do this a lot. Pass the right laws and you can make a lot of money for you, family an friends.

Then there is the issue of Ideological purity. Most thinking people will vary from the ideological purity of a party or leftness/rightness. Those who would follow a party line or be completely locked into a ideological thought would be only rigid robots. There would never be any reason to call or fax them.
While the TSRA does a pretty good job of applying pressure to them. the RKBA isn't all that important to most people. I've noticed that even here not everyone is solidly aligned with the RKBA. Some believe lisensing is good, standards should be held, even that college students shouldn't have guns.

What we really need to do is either find folks we believe in an really support our State Reps and Senators. When they run. We expect a good State Rep. or Senator to sacrifice a lot in order to to a good job. We need to do some sacrificing our selves to get good people those positions.

While you're making good points about the Texas (State) Legislature and how it works, the OP is about a bill in the US House of Representatives.

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While you're making good points about the Texas (State) Legislature and how it works, the OP is about a bill in the US House of Representatives.[/quote]
Whoops, You are correct,
I'm still in shell shock over some stand for nothins in Austin.

looks like i should stop procrastinating and turn in my papers for the FFL , before i wind up on a do not XXXXXX list