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Is this current Obama 'czar' pick for real - and if so, what has just happened to the United States?? We get tax dodgers to run the IRS, "czars" with weird ideas like the elderly are expendable and any child that cannot tell you a 'tomorrow' is coming is suitable for termination, and now this character... (all emphasis is mine)

Cass Sunstein wrote in the introduction to Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions, a 2004 book that Sunstein co-edited with then-girlfriend Martha Nussbaum. In that book, Sunstein set out an ambitious plan to give animals the legal “right” to file lawsuits:

“[A]nimals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives, to prevent violations of current law … Any animals that are entitled to bring suit would be represented by (human) counsel, who would owe guardian like obligations and make decisions, subject to those obligations, on their clients’ behalf.” (my note: could the last bird I shot and didn't clean kill - sue me??!!)

It doesn't end there. Sunstein delivered a keynote speech at Harvard University’s 2007 “Facing Animals” conference. Keep in mind that as OIRA Administrator, Sunstein will have the political authority to implement a massive federal government overhaul. Consider this tidbit:

“We ought to ban hunting, I suggest, if there isn’t a purpose other than sport and fun. That should be against the law. It’s time now.” (my note: obviously Mr. Sunstein doesn't own land in TX or OK where the feral hogs have taken over!)

Sunstein also argued in favor of “eliminating current practices such as greyhound racing, cosmetic testing, and meat eating, most controversially.” (my note: I guess horse racing and wiener dog racing is out also?!)

He concluded his Harvard speech by expressing his “more ambitious animating concern” that the current treatment of livestock and other animals should be considered “a form of unconscionable barbarity not the same as, but in many ways morally akin to, slavery and mass extermination of human beings.” (my note: "slavery"? really!!??...)

Excellent pick Mr. President.

What did you owe this guy?

couzin wrote:He concluded his Harvard speech by expressing his “more ambitious animating concern” that the current treatment of livestock and other animals should be considered “a form of unconscionable barbarity not the same as, but in many ways morally akin to, slavery and mass extermination of human beings.” (my note: "slavery"? really!!??...)

You call them pets. They call them slaves.

What an imbecile. I had to delete my original, ill-considered post.

Is this going to force us to give up our burgers?

boomerang wrote:

couzin wrote:He concluded his Harvard speech by expressing his “more ambitious animating concern” that the current treatment of livestock and other animals should be considered “a form of unconscionable barbarity not the same as, but in many ways morally akin to, slavery and mass extermination of human beings.” (my note: "slavery"? really!!??...)

You call them pets. They call them slaves.

They could be called lunch, also. Is there no more common sense left in DC?

mikeintexas wrote:

boomerang wrote:

couzin wrote:He concluded his Harvard speech by expressing his “more ambitious animating concern” that the current treatment of livestock and other animals should be considered “a form of unconscionable barbarity not the same as, but in many ways morally akin to, slavery and mass extermination of human beings.” (my note: "slavery"? really!!??...)

You call them pets. They call them slaves.

They could be called lunch, also. Is there no more common sense left in DC?

Wait till I tell my father-in-law that he's a slave owner (cattle rancher). What is in the koolaid in DC? This guy actually has the audacity to compare owning an animal to slavery. Really?? That's disgusting! I have to wonder how leaders of the civil rights movement would respond to that remark from Sunstein.

pdubyoo
i only have one thing to say ...your avatar frightens me

I am a proud member of PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals).

Purplehood wrote:I am a proud member of PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals).

mmm , i like cows
oh , and deer
oh , and pigs
oh , and chickens
did i mention cows ?

usa1 wrote:pdubyoo
i only have one thing to say ...your avatar frightens me

LOL...It's a bird that I took a picture of at the Houston Zoo. I wonder if it tastes like chicken.

pdubyoo wrote:

usa1 wrote:pdubyoo
i only have one thing to say ...your avatar frightens me

LOL...It's a bird that I took a picture of at the Houston Zoo. I wonder if it tastes like chicken.

i don't think i could eat it , knowing what it looks like .
that thing looks like it came from another planet

“[A]nimals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives, to prevent violations of current law … Any animals that are entitled to bring suit would be represented by (human) counsel, who would owe guardian like obligations and make decisions, subject to those obligations, on their clients’ behalf.”

If animals can sue us, then it stands to reason that we can sue animals. Now, if I can only get an attorney to file against the birds that keep pooping on my car after I wash it!

“We ought to ban hunting, I suggest, if there isn’t a purpose other than sport and fun. That should be against the law. It’s time now.”

Food!

Sunstein also argued in favor of “eliminating current practices such as greyhound racing, cosmetic testing, and meat eating, most controversially.”

If the Almighty didn't want us to eat animals, then why did He make them out of meat?

He concluded his Harvard speech by expressing his “more ambitious animating concern” that the current treatment of livestock and other animals should be considered “a form of unconscionable barbarity not the same as, but in many ways morally akin to, slavery and mass extermination of human beings.”

Slavery? SLAVERY?!?! Wait a minute, wait a minute - this looks like he's dangerously close to equating animals and black people?!?!

mikeintexas wrote:

boomerang wrote:

couzin wrote:He concluded his Harvard speech by expressing his “more ambitious animating concern” that the current treatment of livestock and other animals should be considered “a form of unconscionable barbarity not the same as, but in many ways morally akin to, slavery and mass extermination of human beings.” (my note: "slavery"? really!!??...)

You call them pets. They call them slaves.

They could be called lunch, also. Is there no more common sense left in DC?

I have a 14 year old Snowy Corn Snake - about a year ago, I feed her the normal...she wouldn't eat. Wife got home and SAVED the mouse... I said he was LUNCH the next time I fed her. She's still here. (I REMEMBER Farrah Fawcett in one of her best movies...The Burning Bed..I would NEVER smack a woman...especially one that lives with me.

Doug

Isn't this the same guy that said 2 or 3 years ago that trees should have a right to sue, because they have feelings too?

I'm not trying to be funny. I'm serious. I think I heard it on the Rush show a few days ago.