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old story, what happened to this guy?

Beiruty wrote:old story, what happened to this guy?

he changed his name to 03Lighteningrocks

So...does Texas have any laws against how much ammo you can have in your home or your car? There was an incident where two CHL's were stopped in Austin. One of the men commented in the story he didn't want to give permission to the officer to search his car because he had just purchased a lot of ammo? I haven't seen any reference to this in the laws I have seen.

I haven't seen any reference to this in the laws I have seen.

The only reference that the CHL handbook makes is on p.51: Local Government Code LGC 229.001 Firearms; Explosives:

CHAPTER 229. MISCELLANEOUS REGULATORY AUTHORITY OF MUNICIPALITIES
Sec.A229.001. FIREARMS; EXPLOSIVES.A (a) municipality may not adopt regulations relating to the transfer, private
ownership, keeping, transportation, licensing, or registration of firearms, ammunition, or firearm supplies.
(b) Subsection (a) does not affect the authority a municipality has under another law to:
(1) require residents or public employees to be armed for personal or national defense, law enforcement, or another lawful purpose;
(2) regulate the discharge of firearms within the limits of the municipality;
(3) regulate the use of property, the location of a business, or uses at a business under the municipality ’s fire code,
zoning ordinance, or land-use regulations as long as the code, ordinance, or regulations are not used to circumvent the intent of Subsection (a) or Subdivision (5) of this subsection;
(4) regulate the use of firearms in the case of an insurrection, riot, or natural disaster if the municipality finds
the regulations necessary to protect public health and safety;
(5) regulate the storage or transportation of
explosives to protect public health and safety, except that 25
pounds or less of black powder for each private residence and 50
pounds or less of black powder for each retail dealer are not
subject to regulation; or
(6) regulate the carrying of a firearm by a person
other than a person licensed to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, at a:
(A) public park;
(B) public meeting of a municipality, county, or other governmental body;
(C) political rally, parade, or official political meeting; or
(D) nonfirearms-related school, college, or professional athletic event.
(c) The exception provided by Subsection (b)(6) does not
apply if the firearm is in or is carried to or from an area
designated for use in a lawful hunting, fishing, or other sporting
event and the firearm is of the type commonly used in the activity.
(d) The exception provided by Subsection (b)(4) does not authorize the seizure or confiscation of any firearm or ammunition from an individual who is lawfully carrying or possessing the firearm or ammunition.

My brain is having trouble wrapping itself around this. This seems to conflict with an officer's right to disarm us for "safety" and then return it to us after clearing us of any wrongdoing. I know I've got to be missing something here, but just aren't seeing it.

C-dub wrote:My brain is having trouble wrapping itself around this. This seems to conflict with an officer's right to disarm us for "safety" and then return it to us after clearing us of any wrongdoing. I know I've got to be missing something here, but just aren't seeing it.

Sorry C-dub, I don't see where the conflict is, in GC 411.207 - Authority of Peace Officer To Disarm. (P.29)

Beiruty wrote:old story, what happened to this guy?

Did he get his citizenship or did the arrest completely derail that?

Too much ammo?????.....uh oh!!

"Massachusetts" Says it all. I don't think I would even drive through the state.

Only time you can have too much ammo IMHO is if your swimming or on fire,and I heard that from somewhere else

joe817 wrote:

C-dub wrote:My brain is having trouble wrapping itself around this. This seems to conflict with an officer's right to disarm us for "safety" and then return it to us after clearing us of any wrongdoing. I know I've got to be missing something here, but just aren't seeing it.

Sorry C-dub, I don't see where the conflict is, in GC 411.207 - Authority of Peace Officer To Disarm. (P.29)

Well, I re-read the above statute and where it says an officer does not have the right to seize the firearm of anyone carrying legally, but I thought somewhere else that right was given to an officer, for safety's sake, but that they must return it once it was determined nothing was wrong. Other than consciousness and a few brain cells this morning, what am I missing?

C-dub wrote:

joe817 wrote:

C-dub wrote:My brain is having trouble wrapping itself around this. This seems to conflict with an officer's right to disarm us for "safety" and then return it to us after clearing us of any wrongdoing. I know I've got to be missing something here, but just aren't seeing it.

Sorry C-dub, I don't see where the conflict is, in GC 411.207 - Authority of Peace Officer To Disarm. (P.29)

Well, I re-read the above statute and where it says an officer does not have the right to seize the firearm of anyone carrying legally, but I thought somewhere else that right was given to an officer, for safety's sake, but that they must return it once it was determined nothing was wrong. Other than consciousness and a few brain cells this morning, what am I missing?

Ahhhh, ok. I see where you are coming from. We are talking about 2 different things here, as I see it and interpret the statutes. NOTE: IAMAL....it's only how I interpret the law. And I've been known to be wrong when it comes to this stuff.

A LEO does have the right to disarm...and then they have to return the gun, after the traffic stop(or whatever) is over. You are correct there. In the statute I quoted, it mentions "seizure or confiscation". That means to me, that they take the gun and don't return the gun to you, and you go about your merry way. And that statute prohibits a LEO from doing that.

It's a matter of temporary vs. permanent. It's ok for a LEO to disarm(but not keep), but NOT for a LEO to take it away from you and keep it.

Make sense?