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I was talking to a friend of mine at work the other day and he was telling me how, when not at work, he keeps his pistol on him at all times. I asked him if he had a CHL and he said no, but darned if he'd be caught dead without being able to protect himself. He didn't even understand that a CHL was required to carry on your person. He referenced the law recently passed allowing anyone to store a firearm concealed in their vehicle and carried that law to his hip.

He's been around firearms for his whole life and I trust he's safe with it but it just goes to show you that the CHL for concealed carry isn't stopping anyone (except those that follow the law).

Let us know how that turns out for him when he tries to sell that to a LEO. I am willing to bet he will end up with a free nights stay at the cross bar motel.

And many others carried in their car even before the MPA was a law knowing full well that they would probably be in trouble for doing so if caught.

C-dub wrote:And many others carried in their car even before the MPA was a law knowing full well that they would probably be in trouble for doing so if caught.

That is true, however the guy in the OP is under the impression that the MPA gives him the right to CC. It is not like he knows he will get in trouble but does it any way.

hheremtp wrote:...not like he knows he will get in trouble but does it any way.

I informed him and he shrugged it off, "No big deal, just don't get caught". Yippee ki-yay cowboy, your life is in your own hands.

hheremtp wrote:

C-dub wrote:And many others carried in their car even before the MPA was a law knowing full well that they would probably be in trouble for doing so if caught.

That is true, however the guy in the OP is under the impression that the MPA gives him the right to CC. It is not like he knows he will get in trouble but does it any way.

True. Those that carried before the MPA were doing so because the law said you cold when traveling and that was a huge gray area. The MPA just defined that a little better. There has been several discussions regarding this here, but I'm unaware of any test cases on this. Several police forces, judges, DA's, and cities said they were just going to haul everyone in carrying in their vehicle without a CHL anyway, but I don't recall hearing that this happened too much. Many of them seemed to backed down a bit when people started asking questions.

C-dub wrote:

hheremtp wrote:

C-dub wrote:And many others carried in their car even before the MPA was a law knowing full well that they would probably be in trouble for doing so if caught.

That is true, however the guy in the OP is under the impression that the MPA gives him the right to CC. It is not like he knows he will get in trouble but does it any way.

True. Those that carried before the MPA were doing so because the law said you cold when traveling and that was a huge gray area. The MPA just defined that a little better. There has been several discussions regarding this here, but I'm unaware of any test cases on this. Several police forces, judges, DA's, and cities said they were just going to haul everyone in carrying in their vehicle without a CHL anyway, but I don't recall hearing that this happened too much. Many of them seemed to backed down a bit when people started asking questions.

Funny how the chest beating of the politicians suddenly stops when the citizens start to grumble, funny you would think that they were afraid of loosing their job or something.

karl:

If you are not aware of any legal problems that your friend may have,
urge him to get a CHL.

It will take the worry out of being strapped.

Plus he might get out of a speeding ticket.

It says that on the back of the plastic. :-)

SIA

My grandfather used to carry a pistol in his car (this was in Texas, years ago, he passed on in '84 RIP)...seemed to be the norm way back when.

I still remember what a cop told my dad once when we had some criminal troubles: "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6."

It really rings true, I'm not advocating illegal carry or anything of that nature, but I tell you what, I am traveling to Wisconsin (Milwaukee) and Illinois (Chicago, 3 weeks in a row) for business several times here in the next few months and carry is NOT allowed there, as I'm sure y'all know...I'm starting to think that I'd be better off taking my chances with the mantra of "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6" - after all, concealed is concealed, right? But I'm flying...into and out of O'Hare, so no dice there. I know, I'm sure I'm a "bad" example for posting this, delete me if you want...but there are times when self-preservation/self-rights are above what the (immoral) law is, at least that's my take. (prepared for public flogging)

I'm of the same mind. I have a CHL because that's what the law requires of us, but in areas where there is simply no legal way to carry, I do anyway.

I took a driving trip through the midwest (including MN, WI and IL) a few years ago, and I had my loaded pistol with me the whole time. I have a family to protect and I'm willing to take my chances of legal trouble in order to be able to protect my family against the "dangerous animals" that seem to infest every city in this country nowadays.

PUCKER wrote:My grandfather used to carry a pistol in his car (this was in Texas, years ago, he passed on in '84 RIP)...seemed to be the norm way back when.

I still remember what a cop told my dad once when we had some criminal troubles: "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6."

It really rings true, I'm not advocating illegal carry or anything of that nature, but I tell you what, I am traveling to Wisconsin (Milwaukee) and Illinois (Chicago, 3 weeks in a row) for business several times here in the next few months and carry is NOT allowed there, as I'm sure y'all know...I'm starting to think that I'd be better off taking my chances with the mantra of "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6" - after all, concealed is concealed, right? But I'm flying...into and out of O'Hare, so no dice there. I know, I'm sure I'm a "bad" example for posting this, delete me if you want...but there are times when self-preservation/self-rights are above what the (immoral) law is, at least that's my take. (prepared for public flogging)

There, hows that for a flogging. Actually I am pretty sure that the majority of people on this forum feel pretty much the same way. I would go to jail if it meant that I had a chance to save my family. In my opinion it would be a small price to pay.

I know a cute little 21 year-old girl who carries in her purse without a CHL. Even into bars when she's not drinking. I think she'd be a perfect test case for a 51% percent area shooting to prevent rape or assault if she were sober when it happened. I told her of the legal issues and she didn't seem too worried about it , but then again it's her choice.

...and this reminds me of the kid that got thrown out of a bar here about a month ago and dropped his piece. Thug life isn't concerned with the laws either.

Well, I guess we all know what we'd like to achieve in the next session

We should persuade Rick Perry to call a special session on this matter.

I'd be all for extending the MPA to include your own body. So if you are anywhere in Texas with your body, then you have the right to carry.

As has been said many times before, the criminals are already carrying regardless of the laws... Might as well make it legal for everyone else.

TheArmedFarmer wrote:I'd be all for extending the MPA to include your own body. So if you are anywhere in Texas with your body, then you have the right to carry.

As has been said many times before, the criminals are already carrying regardless of the laws... Might as well make it legal for everyone else.

betchya that the crime rate would drop dramatically if the odds were evened out .