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What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:49 pm
by marksiwel
What Laws, Insurance ect, do you need to open your own range?

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:42 pm
by Mike1951
Keep in mind that Texas gives counties the right to restrict shooting on tracts less than 10 acres. Some do, some don't. Check your county's ordinances.

Public, private or personal range? If public or private membership range, insurance will be required and is available. Your fees should cover the cost.

If you just use it for personal use, insurance should not be an issue.

Assuming the county allows shooting, what surrounds the intended range? Houses or undeveloped land? This may dictate the berm dimensions or other concessions.

Meet all legal and common sense requirements and one cranky neighbor can still create more grief than you want to deal width.

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:39 pm
by MoJo
$$$$$$$$$$ and more $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:47 pm
by Zee
I imagine a couple of bales of money for starters.

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:13 am
by KD5NRH
marksiwel wrote:What does it take to open a Range
Usually a key, though some use combination locks.
What Laws, Insurance ect, do you need to open your own range?
Well, if it's your range, you should already have the key. :biggrinjester:

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:40 am
by garcia946
Id love to open a range , but at the time I dont have the bales of money for starters.
Maybe if I hit the lotto ... someday.....

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:15 am
by dicion
garcia946 wrote:Id love to open a range , but at the time I dont have the bales of money for starters.
Maybe if I hit the lotto ... someday.....

I'm with ya there. Win the lotto, that's my plan!

Then I can build a Range, with a survival bunker underneath it.... that would be ideal.

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:43 pm
by marksiwel
dicion wrote:
garcia946 wrote:Id love to open a range , but at the time I dont have the bales of money for starters.
Maybe if I hit the lotto ... someday.....

I'm with ya there. Win the lotto, that's my plan!

Then I can build a Range, with a survival bunker underneath it.... that would be ideal.
For lead poisoning :rolll

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:02 pm
by sjfcontrol
Mike1951 wrote:Keep in mind that Texas gives counties the right to restrict shooting on tracts less than 10 acres. Some do, some don't. Check your county's ordinances.
Actually, it's 50 acres for rifles and pistols. The 10 acres is for shotguns, air rifle, BB gun and bow and arrows.

Marksweil/Garcia946: Got any land? I too have been looking into opening a range. Get up to McKinney much?

sjf

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:39 pm
by Mike1951
From the Texas Local Government Code:
Sec. 235.022. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate the discharge of firearms on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision.

Added by Acts 1989, 71st Leg., ch. 1, Sec. 55(a), eff. Aug. 28, 1989. Renumbered from Sec. 240.022 by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1420, Sec. 12.003(9), eff. Sept. 1, 2001.

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:56 pm
by garcia946
sjfcontrol wrote:
Mike1951 wrote:Keep in mind that Texas gives counties the right to restrict shooting on tracts less than 10 acres. Some do, some don't. Check your county's ordinances.
Actually, it's 50 acres for rifles and pistols. The 10 acres is for shotguns, air rifle, BB gun and bow and arrows.

Marksweil/Garcia946: Got any land? I too have been looking into opening a range. Get up to McKinney much?

sjf
In Garland Area , so no land here , wish I did though
McKinney down the road from me on 190(GB)

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:03 pm
by sjfcontrol
Local Gov't Code 229.003 was updated with SB 1742 signed into law Jun 19, 2009
In part, reads...

"(1) a shotgun, ari rifle or pistol, BB gun or bow and arrow discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 10 acres of more, and..."

"(2) a center fire or rim fire rifle or pistol of any caliber discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 50 acres or more and:..."

The whole PDF can be found at: http://www.sos.state.tx.us/statdoc/bills/sb/SB1742.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


(I am not a lawyer)

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:13 pm
by Mike1951
CHAPTER 229. MISCELLANEOUS REGULATORY AUTHORITY OF MUNICIPALITIES

CHAPTER 235. COUNTY REGULATION OF MATTERS RELATING TO EXPLOSIVES AND WEAPONS

Per the above titles, Chapter 229 pertains to towns. 235 pertains to counties.

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:24 pm
by sjfcontrol
Um, so if you have an 11-acre range in the county, and the nearby town expands and annexes your property, you are now subject to regulation and they could shut you down? My assumption was that you'd want a plot of land large enough to eliminate being hassled. (Well, any more than necessary, anyway.)

Re: What does it take to open a Range

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:26 pm
by dicion
sjfcontrol wrote:Um, so if you have an 11-acre range in the county, and the nearby town expands and annexes your property, you are now subject to regulation and they could shut you down? My assumption was that you'd want a plot of land large enough to eliminate being hassled. (Well, any more than necessary, anyway.)
You'd more then likely be grandfathered in under the law that allowed you to initially setup the range. There's quite a few ranges in texas in this situation.

Now, that won't stop your new, suburbanite neighbors from complaining and trying to get you shut down...