Page 1 of 1

AP pistol ammo gelatin test

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:28 am
by LongHairedRedneck
Was looking through some gelatin tests and ran across this AP pistol ammo test. Anyone ever seen/heard of this stuff before? Pretty scary stuff for LEO's or anyone on the recieving end :eek6 even if you are wearing a vest.

Scroll down to bottom of page for better photo of bullet.


http://www.brassfetcher.com/index_files/Page1240.htm

Re: AP pistol ammo gelatin test

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:49 am
by adam71176
Now that is very scary ~13" penetration after going through a vest! That's some evil stuff :reddevil

Re: AP pistol ammo gelatin test

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:40 pm
by Rifleman55
adam71176 wrote:Now that is very scary ~13" penetration after going through a vest! That's some evil stuff :reddevil
It is also illegal here.

Re: AP pistol ammo gelatin test

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:30 pm
by srothstein
it is a combination of the velocity and the shape of the bullet piercing the vest. The same thing works for rifle rounds. Note that the round is concave instead of convex to the point, which makes the point have a lot more pressure on it.

And, just so you know, the II-A vest is not rated to stop even a regular 9mm at those velocities. II-A is tested with 124 grain round nose FMJ (military ball ammo) at 1225 FPS. Threat level II armor is only tested at 1305 FPS. The closest I could see as a standard test is 357 SIG Flat Nose 125 grain at 1470 FPS. This is the standard for a level III-A vest.

for some interesting reading on testing and the vest standards, the newest standard is now available at http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/223054.pdf.

Re: AP pistol ammo gelatin test

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:40 pm
by HankB
Yawn.

Metal penetrating handgun ammo has been around longer than I have . . . my old Western ammunition handbook devotes several pages to extolling the virtues of .357 metal piercing ammo, and that book was published in 1947.