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911 call: Woman shoots man breaking into house

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:27 pm
by Eric C
Including more than 20 min. of police response time.

http://newsok.com/multimedia/video/54313835001

Re: 911 call: Woman shoots man breaking into house

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:45 pm
by Keith B
Here is a link to the article http://www.newsok.com/article/3422809" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. A case of a drunk/doped up guy with a bad history not knowing where he was and busting into the house. The lady held it together pretty well overall. Glad she was armed. Hopefully she will be able to cope the post traumatic stress associated with this type of ordeal.

Re: 911 call: Woman shoots man breaking into house

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:26 pm
by A-R
Wow, that 911 call gives you chills. I couldn't stop listening; listened to the whole 30+ minutes. She is so scared, and then right after shooting she is so sad and remorseful. Thank God she had the resolve to defend herself. I hope she will come to terms and find peace with what happened sooner rather than later. What a brave woman.

Re: 911 call: Woman shoots man breaking into house

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:41 pm
by Greybeard
Yeah, I too listened to the whole thing. Sounds like she's quite a ways out in the boonies. But obviously knew how to operate the shotgun. Prayers for the brave lady.

Re: 911 call: Woman shoots man breaking into house

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:16 pm
by JJVP
austinrealtor wrote:Wow, that 911 call gives you chills. I couldn't stop listening; listened to the whole 30+ minutes. She is so scared, and then right after shooting she is so sad and remorseful. Thank God she had the resolve to defend herself. I hope she will come to terms and find peace with what happened sooner rather than later. What a brave woman.
They should have edited the tape before releasing it. She gives her address, where she hides the house spare key, her son's phone number and where her husband works. She better change her key hiding place and her son better change his phone number.

Re: 911 call: Woman shoots man breaking into house

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:12 pm
by Keith B
JJVP wrote:
austinrealtor wrote:Wow, that 911 call gives you chills. I couldn't stop listening; listened to the whole 30+ minutes. She is so scared, and then right after shooting she is so sad and remorseful. Thank God she had the resolve to defend herself. I hope she will come to terms and find peace with what happened sooner rather than later. What a brave woman.
They should have edited the tape before releasing it. She gives her address, where she hides the house spare key, her son's phone number and where her husband works. She better change her key hiding place and her son better change his phone number.
I thought that was strange too. However, anyone that listens to it will know she ain't afraid to shoot you if you try to come in uninvited, so doubt anyone would try. :nono:

Re: 911 call: Woman shoots man breaking into house

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:43 am
by 03Lightningrocks
It was hard listening to that without getting choked up.

Re: 911 call: Woman shoots man breaking into house

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:10 am
by garcia946
Heard the whole thing also. At least she knew what she had to do to defend herself.
Sad that it came to killing him ,but she had to do what she had to do.
Killing someone would be the last thing I would want to do.
Very brave woman.

Re: 911 call: Woman shoots man breaking into house

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:48 am
by Excaliber
This case is an excellent example of the wisdom of staying inside when threatened from outside. This is a clean, clearly justified and well documented (from the 911 tape) good shoot from an apparently good position of tactical advantage. The intruder, although dangerous, had a very poor tactical position and paid the price, which beats the alternative scenario where the victim pays the price instead. The restraint exhibited by the intended victim is laudable, and puts to rest any reasonable possibility of her defensive actions being portrayed as unnecessary.

Had the homeowner gone outside, confronted the subject there, and had to shoot him when he charged her or made a furtive potentially threatening movement in the dark, she would have been in much greater danger from the suspect, and she could not have been on the phone with 911 to document events leading up to the shoot. This would have left a lot more questions open about the necessity of the use of deadly force when the suspect was found to be unarmed, as he apparently was in this case. As we know, that doesn't make him not dangerous or the use of deadly force unjustified, but it could be expected to cause the defender to be cast in a poor light by the time the media get done with the story and could get expensive legally.

This incident stands in contrast to the pair of recent incidents recounted on this Forum in which citizens decided to hunt for potential bad guys outside or in a next door residence by themselves without contacting the police, with the result that one homeowner was killed by police and a neighbor was narrowly missed by a police officer's bullet.

If placed in a similar situation in the future, it would be wise to consider which set of results one would like to come out of it with, and emulate the tactics that were successful in that regard for others.

Re: 911 call: Woman shoots man breaking into house

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:00 am
by Keith B
Excaliber wrote:This case is an excellent example of the wisdom of staying inside when threatened from outside. This is a clean, clearly justified and well documented (from the 911 tape) good shoot from an apparently good position of tactical advantage. The intruder, although dangerous, had a very poor tactical position and paid the price, which beats the alternative scenario where the victim pays the price instead. The restraint exhibited by the intended victim is laudable, and puts to rest any reasonable possibility of her defensive actions being portrayed as unnecessary.

Had the homeowner gone outside, confronted the subject there, and had to shoot him when he charged her or made a furtive potentially threatening movement in the dark, she would have been in much greater danger from the suspect, and she could not have been on the phone with 911 to document events leading up to the shoot. This would have left a lot more questions open about the necessity of the use of deadly force when the suspect was found to be unarmed, as he apparently was in this case. As we know, that doesn't make him not dangerous or the use of deadly force unjustified, but it could be expected to cause the defender to be cast in a poor light by the time the media get done with the story and could get expensive legally.

This incident stands in contrast to the pair of recent incidents recounted on this Forum in which citizens decided to hunt for potential bad guys outside or in a next door residence by themselves without contacting the police, with the result that one homeowner was killed by police and a neighbor was narrowly missed by a police officer's bullet.

If placed in a similar situation in the future, it would be wise to consider which set of results one would like to come out of it with, and emulate the tactics that were successful in that regard for others.
Very good synopsis Excalibur. :thumbs2: Not sure the lady could have documented her case any better and used any more restraint that she did. This was a no-option deal once the guy came through the glass. I even noticed at one point the lady was told she was allowed to use deadly force if necessary. This sounded like it was being relayed by the Dispatcher from the Deputies. I applaud their recognition that she had to do what was necessary to protect herself, up to and including deadly force.

Re: 911 call: Woman shoots man breaking into house

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:08 am
by Purplehood
Keith B wrote:
JJVP wrote:
austinrealtor wrote:Wow, that 911 call gives you chills. I couldn't stop listening; listened to the whole 30+ minutes. She is so scared, and then right after shooting she is so sad and remorseful. Thank God she had the resolve to defend herself. I hope she will come to terms and find peace with what happened sooner rather than later. What a brave woman.
They should have edited the tape before releasing it. She gives her address, where she hides the house spare key, her son's phone number and where her husband works. She better change her key hiding place and her son better change his phone number.
I thought that was strange too. However, anyone that listens to it will know she ain't afraid to shoot you if you try to come in uninvited, so doubt anyone would try. :nono:
I wouldn't put it past the nutcases that humanity produces...