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John Farnam thoughts

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:13 pm
by williamkevin
I found this on another board. Not sure of the date of this article, but it was posted on the board in August of this year. His words have struck a chord in me...I think I'll be reading his books. Discussion?

John Farnam thoughts

"American in 2009, no good deed goes unpunished:

Last Wednesday, a teller working at a Seattle, WA bank was confronted by a
robbery suspect.

The 29-year-old suspect, a slovenly, unkempt, perpetually-unemployed "
transient" (what we used to call a "vagrant"), with a lengthily criminal
record, and at the time under the supervision of Washington's Department of
Corrections, nervously walked into the bank and demanded money from the first
teller he saw.

This teller, instead of handing over a wad of cash, lunged at the startled
suspect, knocking him backward. He then chased the suspect out of the bank
and down the street, where he captured him and held him for police. The
suspect was arrested at the scene a short time later.

The bank's predictable response was to fire the heroic teller the following
day! I'm sure they're petrified that the robbery suspect will sue them
for "intentional infliction of emotional distress," so upside-down is our
civilization.

What caught my attention were the absurd and demeaning statements made by
the local PD, as well as the FBI:

Advice from SPD:

"When confronted by a violent criminal, it is best to comply, unless you
feel your personal safety is in jeopardy."

Now, when "confronted by a violent criminal," when am I supposed to think
my personal safety is NOT in jeopardy?

These guys need to listen to what they themselves are saying!

From the local FBI/SAC:

"You want tellers to be proactive, but you want them to do it safely."

Now, how it is possible to be "proactive" safely? How is it possible to
take any positive action safely?

Once again, this "advice" is self-contradictory nonsense!

Translated into plain English, the message is clear:

(1) We want all American Citizens to think of themselves only as feeble,
helpless victims. Being a "good victim" is your ultimate, civic duty.

(2) When violent criminals express a desire to rape, maim, and/or murder
you, always wait until it is too late to do anything to defend yourself.
Never do anything that has any chance of success!

(3) The use of force is the exclusive province of government and
criminals. You peons exist only to serve the former, and entertain the latter.

(4) Don't be a hero! We don't like heroes. We want only timid,
frightened, impoverished victims who think they need us.

The real truth is:

(1) You are on your own! "Protection" provided by police, or the FBI,
is mostly illusion.

(2) Go armed. Train regularly.

(3) Act at the critical moment! Use force on your own summary command and
judgement, with enthusiasm, and without apology. We are Sovereign
Citizens and thus entitled to unilaterally protect ourselves via any means
necessary.

(4) Be a hero! This civilization was built by heroes. Frightened cowards
never built anything!

/John"

Re: John Farnam thoughts

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:41 am
by Skiprr
I've had the privilege of training with John five times. You can visit his Website at http://defense-training.com/.

I believe you must be a student of his to receive his "quips" via email, but you can read them at http://defense-training.com/quips/quips.html.

Re: John Farnam thoughts

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:36 am
by longtooth
I savor, digest, & archive for restudy everything he says. :fire

Re: John Farnam thoughts

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:59 am
by Oldgringo
Not that this has anything to do with nothin', but Washington is an Open Carry state.

Re: John Farnam thoughts

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:17 pm
by casingpoint
(2) When violent criminals express a desire to rape...you
Former Texas Gubernatorial candidate Clayton Williams once said that women being raped should just "Lay back and enjoy it."


What caught my attention were the absurd and demeaning statements made by the local PD, as well as the FBI: "You want tellers to be proactive, but you want them to do it safely."
The FBI has concluded there exists an automatic legal presumption during the commission of forcible felonies that the victims will be harmed to an degree which invokes the right to self defense by the use of deadly force. The agency has stated very bluntly that the killing of a suspect in such an incident is a justifiable homicide. I reckon you could call that proactivity. :evil2:

I don't believe anyone can reasonably argue against the FBI's take on this matter following the Christmas Eve shooting death in front of his three children of a Salvation Army official during a robbery attempt in Little Rock. The homie thing went too far this time. The FBI has, in so many words, declared open season on these type persons.

More fuel for the fire and prima facie evidence in favor of the FBI's position on violent crime: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/met ... 90664.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;