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I'd like to share a story. My friend Rick, whom I work with at my part time job (he is black, the reason I think all this happened) pulled into KFC for a snack after he got off work. Suddenly, before he gets a chance to exit his vehicle, he is surrounded by officers at gunpoint ordering him to get out of the car. They claim an assault happened in the nearby area and his car fit the description of the assaulters vehicle (this is the second time his car has fit the "description" for a felony in the last month, I just think Montgomery County officers profile because of his bass cranking Dodge).

He is brought out of the car, cuffed, questioned, and his car is searched. He carries a loaded shotgun under his front passenger seat and when they find it they start harassing him about it, "Why is it loaded?" (duh), "Why do you have a shotgun?", "Why was this gun concealed?". After 45 minutes more haranguing the officers uncuff him and tell him that it is illegal to conceal a long gun in your car. That was news to me. Are these officers full of hot air or am I really missing something that I might (with my luck) be charged with?

Probably full of hot air. What did they charge him with?

Hot Air.

You can carry a long gun in your car concealed, unconcealed, loaded, unloaded, however you want.

Heck, you can carry a long gun on Your Person Concealed without a license... If you can figure out how.

I've always wanted to get an AR-15 SBR with a can on it, and carry it concealed on my back under a coat, JUST for the shocked look on an officer's face when I kindly informed him I had it on me...
...Although, that's probably actually not a good idea, and any scenario in which I would be voluntarily releasing that information to an officer wouldn't be a good one...
but you have to admit, the look that some of these officers would have would be priceless.

dicion wrote:I've always wanted to get an AR-15 SBR with a can on it, and carry it concealed on my back under a coat, JUST for the shocked look on an officer's face when I kindly informed him I had it on me...

...the look that some of these officers would have would be priceless.

Sounds like something I would do

karl wrote:After 45 minutes more haranguing the officers uncuff him and tell him that it is illegal to conceal a long gun in your car. That was news to me. Are these officers full of hot air or am I really missing something that I might (with my luck) be charged with?

Not a word in the Texas statutes to that effect.

karl wrote:...I just think Montgomery County officers profile because of his bass cranking Dodge.

But I do admit I am no fan of bass-cranking cars. There's a guy who evidently works second-shift and lives about two blocks from me...but every weeknight (morning) at about 1:30 a.m. drives by on his way home, rattles windows in houses as he goes along, and wakes all of us in the neighborhood who were otherwise sleeping peacefully.

I support long-gun legality, but I'd like a noise ordinance on vehicles with massive sub-woofers.

There probably is an ordinance already. Cal lthe police and file a complaint. They can come by and chat with him and that will probably stop it. I have a system like that but it goes way down in any neighborhood. 1 reason is it is polite and second is no need to advertise stuff to steal.

karl wrote:Sounds like something I would do

Same here

I actually asked for clarification on concealing long guns in another thread but was basically told it was a dumb question... glad to see an answer, finally

Cops are not lawyers. Know your penal ... code.

But seriously keeping a Texas concealed handgun law handout underneath that "concealed" long gun would helped. At least I hope it would.

d strokes wrote:But seriously keeping a Texas concealed handgun law handout underneath that "concealed" long gun would helped. At least I hope it would.

Not a terrible idea

IMO you can have the Penel Code with you and various sections highlighted and it will do no good, the LEO's are not going to read it just because you handed it to them. Basically your telling them that they do not know how to do their job, not a very good idea to any profession. Soon as a person tries to one up a LEO then thats when they get upset, right, wrong or indifferent thats just the way it is. Best policy is to always be polite and hopefully common sense will prevail. Personally I would prefer not to take a ride just to prove I am right.......

I would suggest the OP's friend consider filing a complaint.
At least, an informal discussion with the officer's supervisor and suggest training on weapons laws.

Quick question.
Can you carry a concealed long gun in 30.06 places ? I saw a neat little 2+1 short barrelled shotgun that Michael Bane has on Shooting Gallery that would be easy to conceal.
Since 30.06 only prohibits handguns .. is there anything prohibiting long gun carry into private places, stores etc.

I'm glad someone brought this topic back up today.
After reading it a second time I found myself wondering...if it is illegal to conceal a long gun then why was he released and not cited? Most the cops I know personally won't let someone slide on something illegal, especially something gun related.
I would think about filing a complaint too, however, by this point if there was no report made(and probably not since he wasn't who they were looking for) they will not be able to tell who was there that day. They may be able to but "convieniently" not have those records if asked. The good ol boy system never fails.

Skiprr wrote:

karl wrote:After 45 minutes more haranguing the officers uncuff him and tell him that it is illegal to conceal a long gun in your car. That was news to me. Are these officers full of hot air or am I really missing something that I might (with my luck) be charged with?

Not a word in the Texas statutes to that effect.

karl wrote:...I just think Montgomery County officers profile because of his bass cranking Dodge.

But I do admit I am no fan of bass-cranking cars. There's a guy who evidently works second-shift and lives about two blocks from me...but every weeknight (morning) at about 1:30 a.m. drives by on his way home, rattles windows in houses as he goes along, and wakes all of us in the neighborhood who were otherwise sleeping peacefully.

I support long-gun legality, but I'd like a noise ordinance on vehicles with massive sub-woofers.