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“Choose this day whom you will serve.”: An Open Letter to American Law Enforcement.

For those of you who don't follow the Merry Band on Sipsey Street, another great letter from Mike:

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Regards,
James

A very well worded article. It was a pleasure to read an intelligently written article.

However, it smacks of the rantings of an anarchist. A little over the top for me. And what he said:

When a policeman pulls over a driver whose computer record shows not only the driver’s license of the vehicle’s owner, but the fact that they have a concealed carry permit, it is too often SOP for the cop to approach the vehicle, gun drawn, order the man or woman from the car, put them on their knees and cuff them before anything else transpires.

is something I just cannot and will not believe. This is a classic example of taking an isolated incident, and carefully wording his statements to encompass ALL such actions. Once again....over the top, and propagandistic.

Which for me, voids the validity of his argument.

But thanks for posting, and interesting read, and a good mental exercise(for me).

joe817 wrote:A very well worded article. It was a pleasure to read an intelligently written article.

However, it smacks of the rantings of an anarchist. A little over the top for me. And what he said:

When a policeman pulls over a driver whose computer record shows not only the driver’s license of the vehicle’s owner, but the fact that they have a concealed carry permit, it is too often SOP for the cop to approach the vehicle, gun drawn, order the man or woman from the car, put them on their knees and cuff them before anything else transpires.

is something I just cannot and will not believe. This is a classic example of taking an isolated incident, and carefully wording his statements to encompass ALL such actions. Once again....over the top, and propagandistic.

Which for me, voids the validity of his argument.

But thanks for posting, and interesting read, and a good mental exercise(for me).

I agree... yet his description is exactly what was happening last year in Shreveport as the mayor enacted Homeland Securities warnings to the police.

joe817 wrote: is something I just cannot and will not believe. This is a classic example of taking an isolated incident, and carefully wording his statements to encompass ALL such actions. Once again....over the top, and propagandistic.

Just because you cannot and will not believe it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You are just not looking for it or not looking in the right places. It's certainly not going to be on any MSM sites. I've only been pulled over and ticketed once for a "traffic violation" and in Southlake, the officer was certainly courteous as he wrote me his $165 ticket for exiting an offramp on 114 at a speed over their arbitrary limit.

Follow:

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And I'm sure there are more where some of these instances have been reported.

Regards,
James

extremist wrote:Just because you cannot and will not believe it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You are just not looking for it or not looking in the right places. It's certainly not going to be on any MSM sites. I've only been pulled over and ticketed once for a "traffic violation" and in Southlake, the officer was certainly courteous as he wrote me his $165 ticket for exiting an offramp on 114 at a speed over their arbitrary limit.

Wow.

I got ticketed by Southlake PD recently for an expired inspection sticker. He was courteous, and did not seem upset by my CHL, my being armed. The expired inspection sticker was entirely my fault, and I have no objection to the law. That I was in violation was an oversight, and my vehicle should have beein in compliance. If annual inspections means that the vehicles on the road pollute less and are safer, yours and mine included, then I am for it.

Similarly, the exit speeds on the 114 off-ramps are there for the general welfare. When frontage road traffic is going 45 mph, exiting the highway at 80 mph is not only dangerous to you, it puts the lives of other motorists at risk — something you have no moral authority to do.

Don't grumble about the ticket. It wasn't "his ticket," as you phrase it. It was "The People's" ticket — like it or not.

Getting a well-deserved speeding ticket is hardly a "Waco Rules" thing.

BTW, I just wanted to point out for those who didn't know it, the expression "Choose this day whom you will serve" comes from Joshua 24:15 in the Old Testament. The entire verse says: "But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your forefathers served beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD."

One can choose to "serve the Lord" without breaking the law. I'm just sayin'....

The Annoyed Man wrote:

extremist wrote:Just because you cannot and will not believe it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You are just not looking for it or not looking in the right places. It's certainly not going to be on any MSM sites. I've only been pulled over and ticketed once for a "traffic violation" and in Southlake, the officer was certainly courteous as he wrote me his $165 ticket for exiting an offramp on 114 at a speed over their arbitrary limit.

Wow.


One can choose to "serve the Lord" without breaking the law. I'm just sayin'....

"Render to Caesar that which belongs to Caesar...". I believe speed limits are in Caesars' domain rather than the Lords'....

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Johnny Cash, the man in black - When the Man Comes Around.

We get some church up in here, from the Book of Revelation.

I believe that this is from his last album, when he was dying,
and knew it, but still kept recording.

SIA

wgoforth wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

extremist wrote:Just because you cannot and will not believe it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You are just not looking for it or not looking in the right places. It's certainly not going to be on any MSM sites. I've only been pulled over and ticketed once for a "traffic violation" and in Southlake, the officer was certainly courteous as he wrote me his $165 ticket for exiting an offramp on 114 at a speed over their arbitrary limit.

Wow.


One can choose to "serve the Lord" without breaking the law. I'm just sayin'....

"Render to Caesar that which belongs to Caesar...". I believe speed limits are in Caesars' domain rather than the Lords'....

My point exactly.

The Annoyed Man wrote:When frontage road traffic is going 45 mph, exiting the highway at 80 mph is not only dangerous to you, it puts the lives of other motorists at risk — something you have no moral authority to do.

For the record, exiting 114 at Carroll, the exit ramp is posted at 45. The FRONTAGE ROAD is posted at 35. There is virtually NO traffic on that frontage road. Going 55 on 114, slowing to 45 and then slowing to 35 has to be accomplished in less than 1/4 mile if the Dodge Charger is sitting there on the north side of the road. To me a ridiculously petty traffic ticket.

But I paid Caesar.

James

extremist wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:When frontage road traffic is going 45 mph, exiting the highway at 80 mph is not only dangerous to you, it puts the lives of other motorists at risk — something you have no moral authority to do.

For the record, exiting 114 at Carroll, the exit ramp is posted at 45. The FRONTAGE ROAD is posted at 35. There is virtually NO traffic on that frontage road. Going 55 on 114, slowing to 45 and then slowing to 35 has to be accomplished in less than 1/4 mile if the Dodge Charger is sitting there on the north side of the road. To me a ridiculously petty traffic ticket.

But I paid Caesar.

James

but think of all the shiney badges and guns you are helping buy!
Yeah 114 can be tricky.
Realistically its hard to do, but legally "Thats the Law" and the police set up there for a reason

I drive 114 almost daily. and it can be a challenge. The speed limit changes from 45 to 65 and back about 5 times in 8 miles, and for no apparent reason. And Keller police set up radar out there ALL the time. Keller? Really? What part of Hwy 114 passes through Keller???

I'm well familiar with the eastbound Carroll exit, and use it quite often. And you're right, it is a little distracting to get hauled down from 65-70mph to exit at 45mph — without getting rear ended by the car coming up behind you — and then trying to merge with potential traffic moving at 35mph. That particular exit deceleration lane is also an entrance acceleration lane for eastbound traffic entering the freeway just before Carroll. It can be particularly distracting if you are having to do it and get all the way over to the right for a right turn onto Carroll.

I genuinely try hard not to break speed limits, but I'm not perfect, and I do speed a bit sometimes. I'm not weaving in and out of traffic and driving 20mph faster than everyone else. It's the kind of thing where I happen to see a 65mph speed limit sign and look down at the dash to realize that I've been going 70-72mph for a while. But, I haven't had a speeding ticket since moving to Texas almost 4 years ago. That said, my cheap (as in $149.95 at Walmart) radar/laser detector has paid for itself many, many times over.

For those sections along the 114 (through Keller and elsewhere) where it gets patrolled a lot, it seems like an inexpensive radar/laser detector is well worth the investment. I drove since 1967 without one until I bought my first one in 2002. My last speeding ticket in a car was December 24th or 25th of 1999. (We were coming home from my mom's house, but I can't remember if we did Christmas at her house or my in-law's house that year.) I've found that I actually tend to drive a bit slower now that I rely on a radar detector because the artifact alerts keep me honest, even if there isn't really a cop pointing his radar gun at me.

Anyway, it is true that the Southlake PD seems to exercise a more vigorous enforcement of the speed postings than do the Grapevine PD, where I live. But if you're going to drive there a lot, as I do, then you do so forewarned that you have to either play by their rules... ...or pay Caesar.

The problem with having to pay Caesar is that, if you have to do it enough times, you also have to pay extra to State Farm (or whomever you insure your vehicles with) and you run the risk of having your license suspended or your insurance canceled outright. Then what do you do? You get stopped again, and you get your vehicle impounded. Now it becomes harder to earn a living.

So for me, the radar detector just makes a lot of sense, partly because it keeps me from having to render unto Caesar, and partly because it keeps me from worrying about having to render unto Caesar.

Good site, has Keller pretty well pegged.

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