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Gun Dealer Denied Sponsorship

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:05 pm
by DONT TREAD ON ME
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The local baseball league might not want Matt Carmel’s money. But he’s found a league that does. After the South Orange-Maplewood Baseball Committee turned down Carmel’s $300 check to sponsor a team, the nearby Morris Rugby Football club said “We’ll take that.” And so now, there will be a local rugby team called Constitution Arms, the name of Carmel’s gun dealership.

The baseball committee rejected Carmel’s sponsorship application, without giving him a reason why. But one of the committee members tells Fox News he voted against it because he was “certain that…it would generate controversy.” Craig Gruber, who’s been on the committee for 7 years told us, “We are a group of volunteers and quite frankly, we have our hands full running the league and deciding things like whether or not the infield fly rule should apply to 9 year olds.”

But Matt Carmel says that’s not fair. He says people have an irrational fear of guns and that besides, the league allows local wine stores to sponsor teams. He also points to another approved sponsor, a chicken restaurant called Cluck U, as being objectionable considering its risqué advertising campaign and name.

But the baseball league says it has broad authority to reject potential sponsors based on the well being of the kids who play. And the league just didn’t think a gun dealer was an appropriate sponsor. They tried to negotiate with Carmel to have remove the word “Arms” from his application, but that wasn’t good enough for him. Besides, he says, he’s selling legal products.

“I want to be able to sponsor and have people understand firearms and get some business from it. Obviously, profit is not a dirty word. I don’t know that I will get a lot of business from it. But I want to advocate and agitate for the 2nd amendment,” Carmel told Fox News.

Well, he’s certainly agitating people in this upscale New Jersey suburb, though perhaps not in the way he intended. Maybe if the Constitution Arms rugby team has a championship season, other teams will petition to allow Carmel to sponsor them next season.

So let me get this straight they do not think that a gun dealer is an appropriate sponsor for kids baseball but a wine dealer is and so is a palce called "Cluck U"?!?!

I am glad that I was brought up with guns and that I have common sense.

Re: Gun Dealer Denied Sponsorship

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:20 pm
by chartreuse
XtremeDuty.45 wrote:So let me get this straight they do not think that a gun dealer is an appropriate sponsor for kids baseball but a wine dealer is and so is a palce called "Cluck U"?!?!
You couldn't make it up, could you?

Re: Gun Dealer Denied Sponsorship

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:27 pm
by joe817
I am glad that I was brought up with guns and that I have common sense.
Amen to that X.D.! :thumbs2: :thumbs2:

Re: Gun Dealer Denied Sponsorship

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:25 pm
by grumble
Typical NJ attitudes. Yet another reason I moved back to TX.

I owned a small digital photo boutique ("while you wait" prints from digital cameras and 30-minute photo processing) and sponsored a girls softball team my first year open. When the 2nd year came around, they never showed up - I inquired as to why? The organization told me that they thought it was "inappropriate" because I had a glass-front refrigerator with free beers in it for my good customers... Whatever.

Re: Gun Dealer Denied Sponsorship

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:26 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
XtremeDuty.45 wrote:http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010 ... er-denied/
The local baseball league might not want Matt Carmel’s money. But he’s found a league that does. After the South Orange-Maplewood Baseball Committee turned down Carmel’s $300 check to sponsor a team, the nearby Morris Rugby Football club said “We’ll take that.” And so now, there will be a local rugby team called Constitution Arms, the name of Carmel’s gun dealership.

The baseball committee rejected Carmel’s sponsorship application, without giving him a reason why. But one of the committee members tells Fox News he voted against it because he was “certain that…it would generate controversy.” Craig Gruber, who’s been on the committee for 7 years told us, “We are a group of volunteers and quite frankly, we have our hands full running the league and deciding things like whether or not the infield fly rule should apply to 9 year olds.”

But Matt Carmel says that’s not fair. He says people have an irrational fear of guns and that besides, the league allows local wine stores to sponsor teams. He also points to another approved sponsor, a chicken restaurant called Cluck U, as being objectionable considering its risqué advertising campaign and name.

But the baseball league says it has broad authority to reject potential sponsors based on the well being of the kids who play. And the league just didn’t think a gun dealer was an appropriate sponsor. They tried to negotiate with Carmel to have remove the word “Arms” from his application, but that wasn’t good enough for him. Besides, he says, he’s selling legal products.

“I want to be able to sponsor and have people understand firearms and get some business from it. Obviously, profit is not a dirty word. I don’t know that I will get a lot of business from it. But I want to advocate and agitate for the 2nd amendment,” Carmel told Fox News.

Well, he’s certainly agitating people in this upscale New Jersey suburb, though perhaps not in the way he intended. Maybe if the Constitution Arms rugby team has a championship season, other teams will petition to allow Carmel to sponsor them next season.

So let me get this straight they do not think that a gun dealer is an appropriate sponsor for kids baseball but a wine dealer is and so is a palce called "Cluck U"?!?!

I am glad that I was brought up with guns and that I have common sense.
I was thinking, "Thank God I live in Texas". :txflag:

Re: Gun Dealer Denied Sponsorship

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:33 pm
by Oldgringo
I didn't think you could say things like the above referenced chicken store's name on this forum?

Re: Gun Dealer Denied Sponsorship

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:01 pm
by joe817
03Lightningrocks wrote: I was thinking, "Thank God I live in Texas". :txflag:
I think that every day 03. :txflag:

Re: Gun Dealer Denied Sponsorship

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:29 pm
by rm9792
Oldgringo wrote:I didn't think you could say things like the above referenced chicken store's name on this forum?
No one is masking or implying anything. That is the actual name of the store.

Re: Gun Dealer Denied Sponsorship

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:22 pm
by Oldgringo
rm9792 wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:I didn't think you could say things like the above referenced chicken store's name on this forum?
No one is masking or implying anything. That is the actual name of the store.
:???: I reckon that's okay if nothing is masked or implied.

BTW, Shep told us that the Rugby team also later refused this guy's sponsorship offer.

Re: Gun Dealer Denied Sponsorship

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:26 pm
by chabouk
In the independent (not affiliated with MLB) Continental Baseball League, the Texarkana Gunslingers (now defunct) sponsored a local 10-12 year old team, and loaned them the team name, as well as equipment and training.