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Finally a Gun Law that makes sense....

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:29 pm
by Salty1
Sensible Gun Registration Plan That Will Work

Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont 's own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere.

Maslack recently proposed a bill to register "non-gun-owners" and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus, Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun.

Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals. Vermont's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state .. it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

This makes sense! There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns. Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way.

Re: Finally a Gun Law that makes sense....

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:15 pm
by Dan20703
I don't care for it.

Nobody should have to register with or without guns. The government doesn't need that info as far as I'm concerened.

... but I will say that it is a good way to stir things up! That I do like! :hurry:

Re: Finally a Gun Law that makes sense....

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:17 pm
by C-dub
This one's been around before.

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic. ... ck#p330848" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Finally a Gun Law that makes sense....

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:26 pm
by JJVP
Salty1 wrote:Sensible Gun Registration Plan That Will Work

Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont 's own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere.

Maslack recently proposed a bill to register "non-gun-owners" and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus, Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun.

Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals. Vermont's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state .. it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

This makes sense! There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns. Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way.
Old news and terrible idea. It is a back-way gun registration. If you don't register, then you have a gun. When they come for guns, they'll go to the houses that did not register. Bad idea. :nono:

Re: Finally a Gun Law that makes sense....

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:40 pm
by casingpoint
Every citizen of legal age would be required to own at least one gun...under strict scrutiny... :banghead:

Oh, No!
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Not that scrutiny stuff again.

Re: Finally a Gun Law that makes sense....

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:10 pm
by GrayGhost
A wonderful idea just to stir up the libs. Let them bear some expense in trying to fight it instead of gun owners spending money to fight bad laws. If it ever really got close to passing, it could be pulled.

Re: Finally a Gun Law that makes sense....

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:16 pm
by RPB
Better idea:


New healthcare bill addendum proposal
M Allen Fritsch is an entrepreneur and business owner. He is a graduate of the United States Military Academy and a former Army officer. His household is one of the 45%

• Conventional estimates state that 45% of all US households own a firearm. This leaves at least 55% of all Americans "uncovered."
• In 2008 there were 16,272 murders in the USA. How many of those could have been prevented if the victims had been able to protect themselves and their health?

My proposal is a modest one:

• Mandate for every American to purchase a gun or be provided one by their employer (children under the age of 26 can share a weapon with their parents)
Tax credits to offset the cost of purchase (for those making less than $250,000 per year and everyone in Nebraska)
• For those that can't afford it, a grant or subsidy to purchase a weapon (union members can get two weapons subsidized before 2018)
Funding for a series of community based gun dealers/clinics and firing ranges (especially in under-served urban and rural areas)
Monthly ammunition benefit so that no one has to choose between feeding their kids, paying the rent, or buying a box of .38 special cartridges

Re: Finally a Gun Law that makes sense....

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:42 am
by TxDrifter
Well, it has been tested on the city level:

From April 2007
As the nation debates whether more guns or fewer can prevent tragedies like the Virginia Tech Massacre, a notable anniversary passed last month in a Georgia town that witnessed a dramatic plunge in crime and violence after mandating residents to own firearms.

In March 1982, 25 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw – responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. – unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of "Wild West" showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting – as a victim, attacker or defender.
The article continues here:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55288

Today's stats for Kinnesaw: http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp ... w&state=GA