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H&K P7 - ?
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:14 pm
by carlson1
Does anyone have any experience with a H&K P7? I have a friend who is wanting to do some trading for one. I am mainly a 1911 NUT, but I am open

It sure feels good. It looks brand new. I am just not familiar with it. Any help or the value of the gun would be great too. It internals have been treated with NP3. Mags also were treated with NP3. Pistol has 6 month old night sights.
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:42 am
by Johnny
Depending on condition and features, usually between $800 and $1500. It's hard to tell based solely on it being a P7. There are several different variations and finishes, each of which has wildly different value. There are no less than seven different P7s out there. Most likely, you're looking at a P7M8. The M-number indicates the magazine capacity.
Commercial guns are almost always higher. Expect to pay the full $1500 for a NIB commercial. Service models with a good bit of use can run as low as $500. Refurbished service models will be more in the $600-$800 range. They are highly prized guns that, for some reason, do not hold their value at all. The bluebook value is in the $1100-$1200 range for a NIB model, but deals like that are difficult to find. The "heel catch" models, with the mag catch at the rear end of the magwell, seem to go higher as they are European models. American models have the mag catch behind the trigger like most American guns.
They are no longer made, except for the "new production" models which are still in production. Yeah, you heard me right. Every time somebody says they're out of production, another shipment of NIB guns arrives. Go figure.
While pricing and production are completely unreliable, the construction is absolutely flawless. The manual of arms is a little bit wacky as a result of the squeeze cocker, but the fit and finish are fantastic. They are exceptionally reliable guns and are widely considered the ultimate in carry pieces. The bore axis is low, which keeps the low weight from causing recoil problems. The squeeze cocker is a little weird, but once mastered it is a truly excellent safety system. The gun absolutely cannot be fired unless you cock it.
If you're looking for a very good carry gun, it would be an excellent choice. Just don't become a weirdo snob about HK. It's some kind of snob virus they put in the finish. I'm not kidding. If you think 1911 shooters are a cult, you haven't seen HK owners.
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:58 am
by carlson1
Thanks for all of the information. I was wondering if you could tell any more by the picture?


Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:25 am
by Texasdoc
I carried one for 4 years as a LEO and its the gun that I got into my shooting with, the one I had was the P-7 M13 very nice gun and easy to use. the only draw back for me is its a 9mm.
300shooter
You are looking at a P7 (PSP) not P7M8
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:28 am
by extremist
Yes you are looking at the P7 PSP being sold here
http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/ubb/u ... p=1#000002
It is one of the recently brought in German police pistols that has had some work done on it. They were selling for as low as $650 and as high as $850. He's had some work done on it and added nite sites. Depending on how bad you want it, it may be worth his asking price - depends on what you are trading.
To find out more about the P7, you can hit my FAQ on it:
http://www.gunfaqs.org/P7FAQ/index.htm
P7s are great. They are addictive - like the 1911. I have over a dozen P7s. All that I've shot are excellent shooters.
Regards,
James

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:08 am
by ElGato
Carl contact George on this forum, he shoots one and is very good with it, the little gun is extremely accurate.
I tease him about his ugly little gun

but it's just because he out shoots me with it.

Re: You are looking at a P7 (PSP) not P7M8
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:56 pm
by carlson1
extremist wrote:Depending on how bad you want it, it may be worth his asking price - depends on what you are trading.Regards,James

He is wanting a Colt Series 80 that I have added extra's to. I probably value my Colt at $850.00.
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 4:20 pm
by CaptDave
george wrote:
I do not agree with the comment that they do not hold their price. I see used ones for about what I paid new.
+1 on that, as well as the "cult of the P7 @ parkcitiestactical.com
Another site that is VERY informative on all things HK is
http://www.hkpro.com
--not only for their forum but also on the history of HK and all the different models of HK's from pistols to rifles to machine guns to
machine grenade launchers - --
that last one's on my Christmas list.

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:27 pm
by MrDrummy
I've read a bit about those, but have never got to put my hands on one. It really is an ugly little gun
I need to look around here and find someone who has one so I can shoot it.
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:31 pm
by carlson1
MrDrummy wrote:I've read a bit about those, but have never got to put my hands on one. It really is an ugly little gun
I need to look around here and find someone who has one so I can shoot it.
That is what I said about Glocks the first time I seen them

The more you hold it the less ugly it becomes. I can't wait to shoot it!
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:34 am
by MrDrummy
Yeah, well I still think that about Glocks! :) I can't get past that rubbery feeling trigger, and they don't feel good in my hands.
I would like to shoot one of those, though, just to see. Let us know how it goes!
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:17 am
by ElGato
carlson1 wrote:MrDrummy wrote:I've read a bit about those, but have never got to put my hands on one. It really is an ugly little gun
I need to look around here and find someone who has one so I can shoot it.
That is what I said about Glocks the first time I seen them

The more you hold it the less ugly it becomes. I can't wait to shoot it!
I think you will like it after you get the feel of it, I know you will like the accuracy.
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:14 am
by carlson1
Quick Update For The P7. It is fast becoming one of my favorite guns. I love the way it shoots and I like carrying it. I thought I would give you a picture since it has new grips and been cleaned up a little.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:34 am
by tvone
I had a couple of P-7's. Both the M8 and the M13. Both were very accurate and the grip fit my hand very well for both of them. Once you spent a few months shooting one, the action is quick to use. Quickest to reload and get into battery. You just put a fresh mag in and grip the gun.
What I didn't like about them...
The cost of the mags, especially the M13. I think I had to pay $85 a mag.
The gun got hot fast. Your not going to put 3 -13 rounds mags through it without it getting hot to the touch. It also seemed to hold that heat for quite a while.
Sold my last one and went to a Sig 228 for a couple of years.