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to him for acknowledging that he was previously wrong.remember this one... what's even baffling is it's on ABC's 20/20??John Stossel says guns SAVE live
Unfortunately, too many right-to-carry supporters/gun rights advocates take that approach. I recently posted a blog where I called out Students for Concealed Carry on Campus for releasing a similarly weak essay arguing that crime on college campuses is on the rise. All of us must demand better from those who carry the gun rights torch.duns wrote:I don't think he has presented enough information to demonstrate his conclusion. Anecdotal evidence like Luby's in Killeen doesn't cut it. He argues that a drop in crime occurred when gun laws were relaxed in the USA -- but he doesn't define 'crime' , he presents no statistics, and he does not present any argument to show cause and effect as opposed to mere correlation. He also states that more burglaries occur when residents are home in Canada and the UK than in the USA -- may be true but burglaries are not the same as lives lost. His article is very superficial to put it politely.
Go read John Lott's book, to which Stossel refers. Everything Stossel states is supported in Lott's extensive work on the issue. Lott has shown conclusively (to all but those who refuse to face facts) that gun ownership reduces crime. You can't make the kinds of arguments that Lott makes in a 500 word opinion piece. Lott has done the work and his work remains unrefuted. All Stossel is doing is reporting the results of Lott's research.duns wrote:I don't think he has presented enough information to demonstrate his conclusion. Anecdotal evidence like Luby's in Killeen doesn't cut it. He argues that a drop in crime occurred when gun laws were relaxed in the USA -- but he doesn't define 'crime' , he presents no statistics, and he does not present any argument to show cause and effect as opposed to mere correlation. He also states that more burglaries occur when residents are home in Canada and the UK than in the USA -- may be true but burglaries are not the same as lives lost. His article is very superficial to put it politely.
Agreed - Lott's book has all the definitions and statistics you could ever want.baldeagle wrote:Go read John Lott's book, to which Stossel refers. Everything Stossel states is supported in Lott's extensive work on the issue. Lott has shown conclusively (to all but those who refuse to face facts) that gun ownership reduces crime. You can't make the kinds of arguments that Lott makes in a 500 word opinion piece. Lott has done the work and his work remains unrefuted. All Stossel is doing is reporting the results of Lott's research.duns wrote:I don't think he has presented enough information to demonstrate his conclusion. Anecdotal evidence like Luby's in Killeen doesn't cut it. He argues that a drop in crime occurred when gun laws were relaxed in the USA -- but he doesn't define 'crime' , he presents no statistics, and he does not present any argument to show cause and effect as opposed to mere correlation. He also states that more burglaries occur when residents are home in Canada and the UK than in the USA -- may be true but burglaries are not the same as lives lost. His article is very superficial to put it politely.
I've read Lott's "More Guns, Less Crime" and it is an excellent book. I still think Stossel's article was sloppy.baldeagle wrote:Go read John Lott's book, to which Stossel refers. Everything Stossel states is supported in Lott's extensive work on the issue.duns wrote:I don't think he has presented enough information to demonstrate his conclusion. Anecdotal evidence like Luby's in Killeen doesn't cut it. He argues that a drop in crime occurred when gun laws were relaxed in the USA -- but he doesn't define 'crime' , he presents no statistics, and he does not present any argument to show cause and effect as opposed to mere correlation. He also states that more burglaries occur when residents are home in Canada and the UK than in the USA -- may be true but burglaries are not the same as lives lost. His article is very superficial to put it politely.