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Sign question

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:48 pm
by Pirogue
Just saw this one....

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Re: sign questionh

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:53 pm
by Taxman
Type of building/business?

Re: sign questionh

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:56 pm
by Pirogue
Professional building w/ Dr offices

Re: sign questionh

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:01 pm
by Teamless
If it is not Federal, nor a school, nor a building with Court or polling, I would disregard the sign.

Re: Sign question

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:10 pm
by Keith B
Unless it is a hospital associated with a University, then the sign is unenforceable by law.

Re: Sign question

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:49 pm
by Pirogue
Baptist professional building in Beaumont.

Kinda funny walking in and telling my wife......."hey, that ain't right."

Re: Sign question

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:55 pm
by terryg
This would be a good one to add to the sticky ...

Re: Sign question

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:18 pm
by C-dub
That's what is on the building going into my doctor's office. I carry right on in unless I know I'm going to be disrobing for anything or I have it in my fanny-pack that is never over my fanny.

Re: Sign question

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:22 pm
by pbwalker
terryg wrote:This would be a good one to add to the sticky ...
Already one in there...5th picture down. References the 4413 (29ee).

Re: Sign question

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:25 am
by bdickens
Sec. 30.06. TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUN. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder:

(1) carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, on property of another without effective consent; and

(2) received notice that:

(A) entry on the property by a license holder with a concealed handgun was forbidden; or

(B) remaining on the property with a concealed handgun was forbidden and failed to depart.

(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written communication.

(c) In this section:

(1) "Entry" has the meaning assigned by Section 30.05(b).

(2) "License holder" has the meaning assigned by Section 46.035(f).

(3) "Written communication" means:

(A) a card or other document on which is written language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun"; or

(B) a sign posted on the property that:

(i) includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;

(ii) appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and

(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.
Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:

(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;

(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event;

(3) on the premises of a correctional facility;

(4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home administration, as appropriate;

(5) in an amusement park; or

(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship.

(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, at any meeting of a governmental entity.

(d) A license holder commits an offense if, while intoxicated, the license holder carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed.

(e) A license holder who is licensed as a security officer under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, and employed as a security officer commits an offense if, while in the course and scope of the security officer's employment, the security officer violates a provision of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.

(f) In this section:

(1) "Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the public that is located in a county with a population of more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.

(2) "License holder" means a person licensed to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.

(3) "Premises" means a building or a portion of a building. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.

(g) An offense under Subsection (a), (b), (c), (d), or (e) is a Class A misdemeanor, unless the offense is committed under Subsection (b)(1) or (b)(3), in which event the offense is a felony of the third degree.

(h) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a) that the actor, at the time of the commission of the offense, displayed the handgun under circumstances in which the actor would have been justified in the use of deadly force under Chapter 9.

(h-1) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsections (b) and (c) that the actor, at the time of the commission of the offense, was:

(1) an active judicial officer, as defined by Section 411.201, Government Code; or

(2) a bailiff designated by the active judicial officer and engaged in escorting the officer.

(h-1) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsections (b)(1), (2), and (4)-(6), and (c) that at the time of the commission of the offense, the actor was:

(1) a judge or justice of a federal court;

(2) an active judicial officer, as defined by Section 411.201, Government Code; or

(3) a district attorney, assistant district attorney, criminal district attorney, assistant criminal district attorney, county attorney, or assistant county attorney.

(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.

(j) Subsections (a) and (b)(1) do not apply to a historical reenactment performed in compliance with the rules of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission.

(k) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (b)(1) that the actor was not given effective notice under Section 411.204, Government Code

Re: Sign question

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:43 am
by Charles L. Cotton
Pirogue wrote:Baptist professional building in Beaumont.
Baptist!? BAPTIST!!? We have more guns than the Mormons!

Chas.

Re: Sign question

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:04 pm
by Crossfire
All Baylor hospitals are properly 30.06 posted.

I think you need to have a talk with these folks, Charles. We wouldn't want you going off the deep end and coverting to Mormon! "rlol"

Re: Sign question

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:19 pm
by i8godzilla
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Pirogue wrote:Baptist professional building in Beaumont.
Baptist!? BAPTIST!!? We have more guns than the Mormons!

Chas.
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Re: Sign question

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:31 pm
by baldeagle
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Pirogue wrote:Baptist professional building in Beaumont.
Baptist!? BAPTIST!!? We have more guns than the Mormons!

Chas.
Oh, OK. If you'd have said wives, I would have had to diagree. :biggrinjester: