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Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:15 am
by longtooth
a reminder to everyone.
A Reminder To Everyone.
A REMINDER TO EVERYONE.

Daily we have new folks coming aboard here. :patriot: :hurry: :woohoo :thewave

New Members
New shooters, young to guns, or just new to carry & handguns.
You are a great focus of this board. You are my personal Top Priority. You are the reason I chose this forum to Mod.
If you have a Q dont hesitate to ask. It may have been answered only 3 weeks ago.
You may not have been here yet.
You may have missed it.
We are getting way over 300 posts a day. Busy days 450+. No one can read them all. Some are long post & the answer to your question may be in the 6th line of paragraph 8. Ya cant readem all.
No Q is a dumb one.
I dont want anyone to get home after a problem on the street & kick themselves & say "I wish I had gone ahead & asked that Q last week."
Ask It.

Veteran Members
99.9% of you are great helpers & encouragers to the new arrivals & each other. You make my job easier & a pleasure too. Many times one of you answers before I get to it. Thanks a bunch.

You that are the computer gurus do a great job of cutting & pasting the legal language & that is a great help to the new folks. (aaaaaaa Helps this old guy that is having a hard time getting out of the 1950s too.)

to the 0.1% who get aggravated at the same Q over again.
Go to the next thread of interest to you. Do not tell them "Go do a search, that was answered last week, everyone knows that, listen better in class, ............ list goes on & on."

Don't offend or discourage the "New Kid on my block."
I was new to the laws of concealed carry once too.
LT

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:22 am
by USA1
longtooth wrote: No Q is a dumb one.
:iagree:

Chances are.. someone else is probably wondering the same thing.

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:24 am
by skub
Thanks for keeping this a place I want to hang around. :txflag:

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:36 am
by Mike1951
longtooth wrote:to the 0.1% who get agrivated at the same Q over again.
Go to the next thread of interest to you. Do not tell them "Go do a search, that was answered last week, everyone knows that, listen better in class,
Guess I'm one of the tenth of a percent. Not because I object to answering the questions, but because I see answers that are lacking, usually from newer members.

I suggested long ago, and my suggestion was not considered, that the best answers to the most commonly asked questions or links to the most informative threads regarding those questions, be compiled into stickies.

I guess most of you old timers are more patient than me.

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:49 am
by Oldgringo
:iagree: Stickies for the most repeated questions would save time and other stuff.

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:20 am
by chasfm11
Oldgringo wrote::iagree: Stickies for the most repeated questions would save time and other stuff.
Perhaps.

I'm a long time poster to RV.NET (over 4,000 posts). They have numerous stickies in almost every section. It isn't clear whether they help but they do not seem to reduce the number of repetitive questions. That board gets a lot of volume every day. It isn't unusual, for example, to see 10-20 furnace broken questions in a day as the Fall season approaches. An RV furnace is just not that complex. Many of the questions come from those who lack basic mechanical skills and probably aren't going to resolve their own problem, regardless of the information provided.

Newbies on a board aren't always adept at searching it. Generally, I can find just about anything on RV.NET that I want but I've come up short here most of the time. A lot of it depends on your getting the correct word to search on. The longer you read the types of words used in a section, the better your search results become, IMHO.

RV.NET has gone through cycles. There was one period were nearly every post got the "that's already been answered" response. Now, it seems to have gotten to a more newbie friendly environment again as those who were so frustrated with the repetitions of questions simply stop responding to them.

I'm very new to the CHL area and, in spite of studying in advance for my class, paying very close attention to my excellent instructor all day long, getting 100% on my test, there is still a lot of the material that I don't grasp. I've been doing intense study for several months now, reading the posts here, books that have been recommended and following provided links. I think that I'm slowly getting to the point of understanding all that I don't know - and it is a lot. I cannot tell you how much I've appreciated the wealth of experience that I've found here and the patience of those who have responded to me as I probably asked questions that have been asked hundreds of times before. I wish that I had the benefit of several years of following this board but I don't. I'm playing "catch up" and not always doing it as quickly as I would prefer.

LT, I appreciate your initiating this thread. It is reassuring to know that the intent of the this forum is to help those like me who are interested in learning. Sometimes, that learning seems like the proverbial "drinking from a firehose." Unfortunately for me, I one who often learns best from my mistakes. I very much want those mistakes to be incorrect things said on this forum that can be corrected rather than incorrect actions on the street with lifelong consequences.

Chas.

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:24 am
by longtooth
chasfm11 wrote:LT, I appreciate your initiating this thread. It is reassuring to know that the intent of the this forum is to help those like me who are interested in learning. Sometimes, that learning seems like the proverbial "drinking from a firehose." Unfortunately for me, I one who often learns best from my mistakes. I very much want those mistakes to be incorrect things said on this forum that can be corrected rather than incorrect actions on the street with lifelong consequences.


Absotively posilutely my desire for you too.
LT

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:38 am
by .45mac.40
:tiphat:


:thewave


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Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:52 am
by jimlongley
longtooth wrote:. . . No Q is a dumb one. . .
LT

I respectfully have to disagree: During the OJ Simpson trial, Kato Kaelin was asked, in order, apparantly, to establish how he knew what time it is, or maybe to discredit his statement of the time; "How many times a day do you look at the clock, Mr Kaelin"

That is the very definition of a dumb question.

Of course, undaunted, Kato came up with a dumb answer: "Sixteen."

Everyone knows that the real answer is 42. :woohoo

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:01 pm
by Matt78665
I am a new member. I greatly appreciate the prompt answers to my questions. I however, do not take the answers as gospel. I will most often research further myself. I do find the answers here tend to point me in the right direction for further research. Thanks again guys for all the help. My CHL is in the mail.

:txflag: :patriot:

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:23 pm
by cougartex
Well said, longtooth. :tiphat: :txflag:

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:38 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Thanks for the post LT.

As for stickies, we did discuss this among the Moderators when the suggestion was made, but we decided not to use them for the same reason we didn't set up an FAQ. The Moderators' concerns fall into three main areas; 1) discouraging new members from asking questions; 2) outdated stickies requiring updating; and 3) having to decide what post/thread warrant a sticky.

Whether you use stickies or FAQ's, there is a tendency with some members to refer people asking questions to those resources, sometimes politely, sometimes not. We don't want that happening.

Unlike the CorvetteForum that I read, most material that would be in an FAQ or a sticky is not static and would require updating. Laws, procedures and eligibility requirements change and an outdated sticky is not only useless, it could cause problems for people relying upon it. None of the moderators have time to monitor and update stickies.

The final concern is that Moderators don't want to have to decide what threads warrant being elevated to a sticky. If you let the members decide by popular vote as some boards do, then you wind up with so many stickies no one will take the time to read them before asking a question anyway.

So don't think we didn't consider recommendations for stickies, we just decided that they wouldn't work for us. I understand that some members get frustrated at seeing the same questions posted, but the solution for that member is easy; ignore it. Someone else will cheerfully answer the question.

Chas.

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:58 pm
by Jim Lockey
I thought I was clear on the various no carry signs, but have all the discussions, I not so sure. Maybe too much information.

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:52 pm
by Kythas
jimlongley wrote:
longtooth wrote:. . . No Q is a dumb one. . .
LT

I respectfully have to disagree: During the OJ Simpson trial, Kato Kaelin was asked, in order, apparantly, to establish how he knew what time it is, or maybe to discredit his statement of the time; "How many times a day do you look at the clock, Mr Kaelin"

That is the very definition of a dumb question.

Of course, undaunted, Kato came up with a dumb answer: "Sixteen."

Everyone knows that the real answer is 42. :woohoo
"Remember, Cartman. There are no stupid questions, only stupid people." - Mr. Garrison (from South Park, in case any of you don't know)

Re: Same Question again.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:56 pm
by longtooth
Non of them on here though.