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CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:48 pm
by Zoti
I have recently got my CHL and I'm trying to male sure I don't make any illegal carrying.
Here's the issue. I carry every day with me. I also pick up my son from school. Mostly via car pool but sometimes I will walk up and pick him from where they have the kids waiting for the car pool.
The school has a 30.06 sign posted at the door.
If I carry on me but stay in the car in the car pool lane. Is that legal?
If I put the gun in the glove compartment/trunk and park on school property. Is that legal?
Thanks,
Zoti
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:55 pm
by 7075-T7
A school doesn't need to post a 30.06, but from what I was told as long as you don't cross the threshold into the building, you can carry all you want. (I live next to an elementary school and asked the specific question for that reason)
IANAL, etc etc
Welcome to the forum!
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:03 pm
by MoJo
According to DPS as long as you are in your car or standing on the pavement you are OK. They told us at the instructor's school as long as you don't go inside the building or step on the grass you were legal. I would leave it locked in the car if I was getting out to get my child. Locked in the car is OK if going for a conference etc.
IANAL but I am a CHL instructor.
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:11 pm
by father
What was their justification for the grass being off limits? Is the lawn a building or a portion of a building?
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:15 pm
by 7075-T7
father wrote:What was their justification for the grass being off limits? Is the lawn a building or a portion of a building?
It is if you're at A&M

(sorry, had to)
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:37 pm
by Purplehood
I park out front and sit on the bench right outside the front doors waiting on my son under the veranda. I never enter the building while carrying.
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:41 pm
by Zoti
I remember a certain distance restriction for schools. That means that if you sit on a bench where they bring out the kids then you are probably in violation of the law. The car pool is probably also within that range and also if I wail walk to where they have the "walkers" and pick him up.
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:43 pm
by Purplehood
Zoti wrote:I remember a certain distance restriction for schools. That means that if you sit on a bench where they bring out the kids then you are probably in violation of the law. The car pool is probably also within that range and also if I wail walk to where they have the "walkers" and pick him up.
I don't recall a distance requirement. I think you may be referring to before the laws were changed regarding Gun-Free zones.
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:55 pm
by wally775
If you stay in the car you have no problem. The same would be true for the sidewalk.
JMO but I would stay in the car and avoid the possible hulabaloo that could be caused whether
you turn out right or wrong, especially with your child there.
Besides, the AC would feel great. 107 here today.
Just my .02.
IANAL and also a CHL Instructor.
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:00 pm
by Crossfire
Zoti wrote:I remember a certain distance restriction for schools. That means that if you sit on a bench where they bring out the kids then you are probably in violation of the law. The car pool is probably also within that range and also if I wail walk to where they have the "walkers" and pick him up.
The Federal Gun-Free School Zone law says you cannot have a firearm within 1000 feet of the premises of a school. It also has certain exceptions to that law, including that you have a carry license issued to you be the state in which you reside. So, it does not apply to Texas resident CHL holders.
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:01 pm
by Zoti
I agree that staying in the car is the best option however, sometimes you have to get out of the car for whatever reason. Sometimes I get there early and prefer to walk to where they have the kids waiting and pick up my son to save time.
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:41 pm
by KFP
As long as the school is a public school, you are able to carry when picking your child up. The premises of the school is off limits - premises being defined as the building, or portion of the building.
If the school is private, the 30.06 sign is valid. Depending on the location of the sign (parking lot for example) the property could be off limits for you.
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:21 pm
by Zoti
It's a public school and the sign is posted on the door.
So, if I understand correctly, the only limitation is actually going into the school building. Picking at the carpool lane is fine and also parking and walking up to the front door and picking my son from there (without going inside) is fine. Right?
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:23 pm
by Zoti
Crossfire wrote:Zoti wrote:I remember a certain distance restriction for schools. That means that if you sit on a bench where they bring out the kids then you are probably in violation of the law. The car pool is probably also within that range and also if I wail walk to where they have the "walkers" and pick him up.
The Federal Gun-Free School Zone law says you cannot have a firearm within 1000 feet of the premises of a school. It also has certain exceptions to that law, including that you have a carry license issued to you be the state in which you reside. So, it does not apply to Texas resident CHL holders.
Where can I find this in writing?
Re: CHL and picking your kids from school
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:38 pm
by Crossfire
http://www.gunlaws.com/Gun_Free_School_Zones_Act.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the
possession of a firearm—
(i) on private property not part of school grounds;
(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to
do so by the State in which the school zone is located
or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of
the State or political subdivision requires that, before
an individual obtain s such a license, the law enforcement
authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the
individual is qualified under law to receive the license;