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CHL in a bank?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:15 pm
by TxGambler
I regularly make deposits in Bank of Headacks oh sorry Bank of America. The walk from my store to the bank is about one city block. When I took the class I don't remember about chl in banks? There are no signs to stop me but I feel weird carring in a bank. But if is legal I will get use to it.

Thanks in advance

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:21 pm
by JNMAR
If it's not properly posted with a 30.06 sign that meets the requirements of the law...carry away.

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:21 pm
by texasjeep44
It is in your book on page 40. I little refresher every once in a while is a good thing.

Every member of this forum should have this webpage bookmarked in my opinion.

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PC §46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's
person:
(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued
under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if
the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or
service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined
by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section
104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional
sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, unless
the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used
in the event;
(3) on the premises of a correctional facility;
(4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241,
Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed
under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license
holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home
administration, as appropriate;
(5) in an amusement park; or
(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established
place of religious worship.
(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
TEXAS CONCEALED HANDGUN LAWS PC §46.035. 41
of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
whether the handgun is concealed, at any meeting of a governmental
entity.
(d) A license holder commits an offense if, while intoxicated, the
license holder carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H,
Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is
concealed.
(e) A license holder who is licensed as a security officer under
Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, and employed as a security officer
commits an offense if, while in the course and scope of the security
officer's employment, the security officer violates a provision of
Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
(f) In this section:
(1) "Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or outdoor
facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the
public that is located in a county with a population of more than one
million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed
with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more
than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the
premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private
driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or
other parking area.
(2) "License holder" means a person licensed to carry a handgun
under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
(3) "Premises" means a building or a portion of a building. The
term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk
or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
(g) An offense under Subsection (a), (b), (c), (d), or (e) is a Class A
misdemeanor, unless the offense is committed under Subsection
(b)(1) or (b)(3), in which event the offense is a felony of the third
degree.
(h) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a) that the
actor, at the time of the commission of the offense, displayed the
handgun under circumstances in which the actor would have been
justified in the use of deadly force under Chapter 9.
[double amendment to same provision]
(h-1) *[as added by Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., HB 1889.] It is a defense to
prosecution under Subsections (b) and (c) that the actor, at the time of
the commission of the offense, was:
(1) an active judicial officer, as defined by Section 411.201,
Government Code; or
(2) a bailiff designated by the active judicial officer and engaged
in escorting the officer.
(h-1) *[as added by Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., HB 2300.] It is a defense to
prosecution under Subsections (b)(1), (2), and (4)-(6), and (c) that at
the time of the commission of the offense, the actor was:
42 PC §46.04. TEXAS CONCEALED HANDGUN LAWS
(1) a judge or justice of a federal court;
(2) an active judicial officer, as defined by Section 411.201,
Government Code; or
(3) a district attorney, assistant district attorney, criminal district
attorney, assistant criminal district attorney, county attorney, or assistant
county attorney.
(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor
was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
(j) Subsections (a) and (b)(1) do not apply to a historical reenactment
performed in compliance with the rules of the Texas Alcoholic
Beverage Commission.
(k) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (b)(1) that the
actor was not given effective notice under Section 411.204, Government
Code.

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:48 pm
by TxGambler
They have no signs and unless i missd it, it is ok to carry as long as I'm not stupid.

thanks

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:08 pm
by kahrfreak
I've never been in a BofA that was posted. I'm not saying they're not out there, so YMMV.

Now "America's" Credit Union, OTOH...(not so sure what's so American about a 30.06-posted credit union!)

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:13 pm
by lonewolf
I remember walking into a bank the first time with my son. He knows I carry, and I thought he was going to bust a gut laughing. He managed to keep it under control, though, and admitted later that being with me in a bank while I was carrying "weirded him out". Perfectly legal, though, unless otherwise properly posted. :coolgleamA:

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:03 am
by KaiserB
The other day I met a fellow CHLer that had a small wallet card with the current TX law for banned placed (i.e. pg. 40 of the TX CHL book §46.035). His instructor had given one to each of the students. I thought it was a great idea.

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:25 am
by RPB
JNMAR wrote:If it's not properly posted with a 30.06 sign that meets the requirements of the law...carry away.
I wouldn't bank anywhere they had a 30.06 sign, very few banks do have them. I like Chappel Hill's banks' sign where they post that CHLs with guns are welcome.

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Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:38 am
by Purplehood
I agree with the sentiment of it feeling "weird" entering a bank armed. The general feeling I get is that if you are walking into a bank armed, you must be getting ready to rob it.
Illogical, but it is how I feel.
I still enter the bank, but I always have the same thought as I do so...

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:39 am
by 74novaman
I must be the weird one here. When I go talk to my banker here, we talk about what guns we're carrying that day. (He has his CHL as well). :txflag:

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:45 am
by Pawpaw
Wasn't there a news story a few years ago where some guy tried to rob a bank and several CHLers thoroughly perforated him?

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:51 am
by bdickens
I never did understand the idea of people "feeling weird" about carrying in certain places. Why would you feel weird about doing something that is completely normal and legal? As if you're somehow sneaking around and "getting away" with something.

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:37 pm
by 3dfxMM
bdickens wrote:I never did understand the idea of people "feeling weird" about carrying in certain places. Why would you feel weird about doing something that is completely normal and legal? As if you're somehow sneaking around and "getting away" with something.
That's just it. It isn't completely normal. The vast majority of people don't do it and even for those that do, it doesn't feel normal until after you have been doing it for a while.

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:49 pm
by Tamie
3dfxMM wrote:
bdickens wrote:I never did understand the idea of people "feeling weird" about carrying in certain places. Why would you feel weird about doing something that is completely normal and legal? As if you're somehow sneaking around and "getting away" with something.
That's just it. It isn't completely normal. The vast majority of people don't do it and even for those that do, it doesn't feel normal until after you have been doing it for a while.
It's a sad situation if the antigun propaganda is that widespread, especially in Texas.

Re: CHL in a bank?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:13 pm
by 3dfxMM
It has nothing to do with propaganda. Very few people have CHLs and many of those who do don't carry very often for various reasons. Most people who do not have a CHL are not accustomed to the idea that someone might be carrying a gun and probably don't actually think about it much at all. These are just facts. Everyone here knows how it felt when they first started carrying (i.e. everyone is staring at you waiting to get a peek at your gun.)