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Hellcat .380

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:44 pm
by Carry-a-Kimber
Anybody have an opinion on the Hellcat .380?
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I saw one of these at the HC Gunshow a couple weeks ago and it seemed to be fairly sturdy. Centerfire Systems has them for $199.00 with 2 mags and a pocket/iwb holster. Seems like it would be good to just keep in the console of my truck. So what do ya'll think? Anyone messed with one?

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:32 pm
by Medic218
Looks like an LCP "CopyCat" more than a Hellcat.
But to answer you're question, no, this is a new one for me.

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:05 am
by Mike1951
MedicMan218 wrote:Looks like an LCP "CopyCat" more than a Hellcat.
But to answer you're question, no, this is a new one for me.
I agree, but let's give credit where it's due.

The LCP was a copycat of the P3AT.

If the OP hadn't seen one in person, my first thought was PhotoShop.

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:09 am
by Carry-a-Kimber
It looks like the P3AT and the LCP had a lovechild. Gunblast gave it a favourable review, and I figured for $200 it might be worth checking out.

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:40 pm
by E150GT
If I was gonna buy a dedicated car gun, ie on that is never carried, I would go for something a little bigger in caliber and easier to handle. Just my thoughts.

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:08 pm
by Carry-a-Kimber
I already have a Smith Sigma that stays in my truck, just thought this could join it. Something I could keep in the console and throw on if I wasn't carrying on my person. Its hard to conceal that big Sigma without planning, with this one I could just keep it in the IWB holster that comes with it and clip it on the inside of my pants.

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:23 pm
by jeeperbryan
My guess is that it'll be as unreliable as all the other pocket .380s I've tried or shot. I've just about given up of the pocket 380 trend. Pick any model [P3AT|LCP|TCP|P238|Diamondback|Hellcat] and you'll find 10 people that have had issues and 10 people that have had no issues. Then you'll get people that claim 100% reliability....after 100 rounds :) Until someone comes out with a pocket size Glock 26/27, I'm just sitting back and watching....

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:32 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Mike1951 wrote:
MedicMan218 wrote:Looks like an LCP "CopyCat" more than a Hellcat.
But to answer you're question, no, this is a new one for me.
I agree, but let's give credit where it's due.

The LCP was a copycat of the P3AT.
Beat me to it, except that I think the P3AT may be a ripoff of the Grendel .380, except for the shape of the trigger guard...

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:21 am
by Mike1951
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Mike1951 wrote:
MedicMan218 wrote:Looks like an LCP "CopyCat" more than a Hellcat.
But to answer you're question, no, this is a new one for me.
I agree, but let's give credit where it's due.

The LCP was a copycat of the P3AT.
Beat me to it, except that I think the P3AT may be a ripoff of the Grendel .380, except for the shape of the trigger guard...
Can it be a ripoff if George Kellgren is responsible for both?

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:58 am
by Embalmo
jeeperbryan wrote:My guess is that it'll be as unreliable as all the other pocket .380s I've tried or shot. I've just about given up of the pocket 380 trend. Pick any model [P3AT|LCP|TCP|P238|Diamondback|Hellcat] and you'll find 10 people that have had issues and 10 people that have had no issues. Then you'll get people that claim 100% reliability....after 100 rounds :) Until someone comes out with a pocket size Glock 26/27, I'm just sitting back and watching....
Good luck finding 10 dissatisfied LCP owners. One should really do research before disparaging so many guns in one post.

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:06 am
by Embalmo
Mike1951 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Mike1951 wrote:
MedicMan218 wrote:Looks like an LCP "CopyCat" more than a Hellcat.
But to answer you're question, no, this is a new one for me.
I agree, but let's give credit where it's due.

The LCP was a copycat of the P3AT.
Beat me to it, except that I think the P3AT may be a ripoff of the Grendel .380, except for the shape of the trigger guard...
Can it be a ripoff if George Kellgren is responsible for both?
The LCP was both a rip-off and an improvement of the P3AT.

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:22 am
by Dave2
jeeperbryan wrote:Until someone comes out with a pocket size Glock 26/27, I'm just sitting back and watching....
Glock 26s & 27s are pocket sized.

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:14 am
by Medic218
Dave2 wrote:
jeeperbryan wrote:Until someone comes out with a pocket size Glock 26/27, I'm just sitting back and watching....
Glock 26s & 27s are pocket sized.
Cargo pocket maybe. :lol::

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:17 am
by jeeperbryan
Embalmo wrote:
jeeperbryan wrote:My guess is that it'll be as unreliable as all the other pocket .380s I've tried or shot. I've just about given up of the pocket 380 trend. Pick any model [P3AT|LCP|TCP|P238|Diamondback|Hellcat] and you'll find 10 people that have had issues and 10 people that have had no issues. Then you'll get people that claim 100% reliability....after 100 rounds :) Until someone comes out with a pocket size Glock 26/27, I'm just sitting back and watching....
Good luck finding 10 dissatisfied LCP owners. One should really do research before disparaging so many guns in one post.

It's not hard to find dissatisfied LCP owners. Here's a simple google search that will return quite a few problem threads:

http://tinyurl.com/322hp7r

As far as research, nothing is quite like firsthand right? With exception to the Hellcat, I have owned or know someone that has owned every model I listed.

Re: Hellcat .380

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:20 am
by jeeperbryan
Dave2 wrote:
jeeperbryan wrote:Until someone comes out with a pocket size Glock 26/27, I'm just sitting back and watching....
Glock 26s & 27s are pocket sized.
LOL, not quite. I can fit lots of stuff in my pockets but doesn't make them pocket sized. As I'm sitting in my desk, I just put a Swingline stapler in my front pocket.