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Armed citizenry preventing crime

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:55 pm
by txinvestigator
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs. ... 09/OPINION


I was pleased to see the Castle doctrine law is doing its intended purpose when I read the story ("Jackson police probe shooting," Aug. 29) in which two armed, masked men entered a business on U.S. 80 and the owner opened fire on them as they opened the door.

They ran for their miserable lives and immediately attempted to enter another business.

Bad move.

The business owner there opened fire on them as well. Minutes later, police found the two suspects sitting in a vehicle with gunshot wounds.

I guess it just wasn't their lucky day. But, that's wrong. The fact is, there were lawmakers courageous enough in the Mississippi Legislature to craft a sensible law so the honest citizen could protect what's rightfully theirs.

Lawmakers like Sens. Charlie Ross, Richard White and 30 others along with Gov. Haley Barbour did the right thing. In fact, the bill was passed with overwhelming bipartisan support.

Lawmakers had enough foresight to understand the police can't protect us. They realized law enforcement ranks are outnumbered by the bad guys, and that the citizens need to care for themselves. It's not only our right, but our responsibility.

The whiners and naysayers said. "There will be blood in the streets if this law is passed..." Well, turns out one sunny Monday afternoon when two criminals tried to rob the wrong people on U.S. 80, they were absolutely right.

In 1775, United States Founding Father Thomas Paine wrote: "Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. ... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
As a National Rifle Association firearms instructor, I say: Changing times and a different environment have done nothing to invalidate that observation.

Cliff Cargill

Jackson

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:15 pm
by carlson1
Good Report

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:24 pm
by flintknapper
Thats funny. :smile:

I can see those two sitting in their car bleeding, thinking "Sheeeeesh, whatever happened to the good 'ol days when your average robber could just go in and take what he wanted". :cry:


Castle doctrine sounds good to me.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:33 pm
by Venus Pax
We need that here.

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:17 am
by Boma
Sounds good to me!

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:43 am
by longtooth
Love it. Two in a row.

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:37 am
by KinnyLee
I guess they're not smart enough to learn their lesson the first time around. :lol:

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:55 am
by Popshot
Very interesting story. Some crooks are really dumb, but once word of this gets out, maybe some of them will wise up and pick a new line of work. I understand that Texas law is a bit vague on the "retreat" issue. Let's hope we can get the legislature to clear up this situation.

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:16 am
by txinvestigator
Popshot wrote: I understand that Texas law is a bit vague on the "retreat" issue. .
Not really. We have discussed it quite a bit here. You can probably find some interesting discussion on the topic. ;-)

Re: Armed citizenry preventing crime

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:25 am
by stevie_d_64
txinvestigator wrote:The whiners and naysayers said. "There will be blood in the streets if this law is passed..." Well, turns out one sunny Monday afternoon when two criminals tried to rob the wrong people on U.S. 80, they were absolutely right.

In 1775, United States Founding Father Thomas Paine wrote: "Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. ... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
As a National Rifle Association firearms instructor, I say: Changing times and a different environment have done nothing to invalidate that observation.
Y'all can call me every dirty name in the book, but this is just the thing to send to people like Chief Compass, Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco for all that stupid stuff they did for the folks in their state...

Not that it would do anyone any good...I just love rubbing their noses in it...

And more important...

It makes me feel better!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:36 pm
by 308nato
I agree with stevie_d_64 and txinvestigator and what realy ticks me
off is mayor nagen still thinks the 2nd amendment is not valid for the citizens of New Orleans or La. :mad:

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:56 pm
by Roger Howard
308nato wrote:I agree with stevie_d_64 and txinvestigator and what realy ticks me
off is mayor nagen still thinks the 2nd amendment is not valid for the citizens of New Orleans or La. :mad:
the sad part is they reelected him even after all his screwups. :roll:

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:25 pm
by flintknapper
Roger Howard wrote:
308nato wrote:I agree with stevie_d_64 and txinvestigator and what realy ticks me
off is mayor nagen still thinks the 2nd amendment is not valid for the citizens of New Orleans or La. :mad:
the sad part is they reelected him even after all his screwups. :roll:

I guess they deserve him then.

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:51 am
by stevie_d_64
flintknapper wrote:
Roger Howard wrote:
308nato wrote:I agree with stevie_d_64 and txinvestigator and what realy ticks me
off is mayor nagen still thinks the 2nd amendment is not valid for the citizens of New Orleans or La. :mad:
the sad part is they reelected him even after all his screwups. :roll:

I guess they deserve him then.
They certainly do!

I recall an equally rediculous "cut-and-run" celebration that we had here in Houston a while back when the Houston delegation of State legislators came back and had a little party for them...The Ardmore, Oklahoma liberals...

A few friends and I went to crash their little party...We blended in, drank their cash bar adult beverages (liberals are a real chingy bunch, in moderation and camoflage intent) worked our way into the crowd and got a good spot center-stage and pretty much in the middle of the crowd...

Garnet Coleman got up with the rest of the Ardmore group and started pontificating about how they really "stood their ground, and showed the Perry Republicans what for!"...

I wish I have got it on film...

After the applause and general stupidity died down...I cut loose...

"No you didn't! You guys ran off like a bunch of cowards!"

Took one more long pull off the beer I was drinking, set it down, and we walked out...

You could have heard a pin drop...

Moral of the story is something I took from another friend of mine...

"I illustrated the absurd, by being absurd..." In the midst of absurdity...

Sometimes you just got to make a stand...Politicians are not above us in any way, shape or form...

I certainly give praise and accolades to those who do things that are great, and go out of my way to find those things...

But when they do bad...Its time to pony up and dash their hopes against the rocks...

I considered this encounter to be "shock and awe"...And at no time was there any threats, or risk of any aggregious physical contact...

I just wish we had more people who desired to stand up to politicians like this...

But thats just me and a few others I suppose... ;-)

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:23 pm
by Roger Howard
stevie_d_64
I wish I could have been there for that!!!!! :lol: