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				Open Carry in texas
				Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:28 pm
				by Gunsmoke
				Has anyone heard any news lately in regards to legalizing open carry in Texas? Texas not having open carry is nationally embarrassing. 

 
			
					
				Re: Open Carry in texas
				Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:45 pm
				by cbr600
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Open Carry in texas
				Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:07 pm
				by carlson1
				You can use the Forums "search" and find a wealth of information. The pros and cons. Welcome to the forum!
			 
			
					
				Re: Open Carry in texas
				Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:41 pm
				by dac1842
				First let me state I am very pro 2A. However I personally do not want to see open carry, unless the same law prohibits businesses from prohibiting concealed carry. Here is why. RIght now with CHL we have the luxury of out of sight out of mind, no one gets excited or offended on what they do not know. If we go to open carry and folks in restraunts and other establishments start complaining I am afraid you will see more and more business caving in and banning any kind of carry. 
When that happens then many concealed carry advocates will get mightly upset at the open carry advocates. I also feet that open carry needs to be licensed as well to ensure folks go through the background check and what minimal training it is.
			 
			
					
				Re: Open Carry in texas
				Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:54 pm
				by PATHFINDER
				The word is that Texas House Rep. George Lavender of Texarkana is  drafting a bill to be filed soon. I have no information beyond that.  The cracker-barrel  discussion on the topic would suggest that a logical approach would be to start with    46.035(a) being either deleted entirely ,  or amended  with  a qualifying reference to  Title 9, Section 42.01 (a) (8)  ".....and  intentionally fails to conceal the handgun in public in a manner calculated to alarm."  This would focus  legislative concerns addressed in 46.035 (a) - "with a view to prevent crime" - squarely on the criminal offense  of disorderly  conduct.  
Given that   a handgun lawfully carried  in plain view  for the  purpose of self- defense in case of confrontation  is now a federally protected  fundamental  civil  right  in  the 50 United States (which includes Texas), subject only to certain reasonable restrictions, the unqualified  provision of 46.035 (a)  is patently  unconstitutional.  Resolving this conflict need not be an excruciating endeavor,  at least for those who understand that a fundamental substantive civil right like the right guaranteed under  provision of the 2A is not subject to licensing ( Murdock v The Commonwealth of PA).
			 
			
					
				Re: Open Carry in texas
				Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:16 pm
				by cbr600
				Well, if we're going to have the same old emotion-driven conversations yet again...
dac1842 wrote:If we go to open carry and folks in restraunts and other establishments start complaining I am afraid you will see more and more business caving in and banning any kind of carry. 
Open carry wasn't a problem in North Carolina.  It's a shame you're afraid of so many antigunners in Texas who would overreact.
 
			
					
				Re: Open Carry in texas
				Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:27 pm
				by BrianSW99
				PATHFINDER wrote:
Given that   a handgun lawfully carried  in plain view  for the  purpose of self- defense in case of confrontation  is now a federally protected  fundamental  civil  right  in  the 50 United States (which includes Texas)
I don't think that's exactly what the Supreme Court said.  It's my understanding that they primarily addressed owning a firearm for protection in your home.  Is there something I missed?
 
			
					
				Re: Open Carry in texas
				Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:03 am
				by The Annoyed Man
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Open Carry in texas
				Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:09 am
				by cbr600
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Open Carry in texas
				Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:28 am
				by Skiprr
				I have to agree with TAM.
Topics regarding open-carry in Texas already exist on this Forum.
I can't see justification to warrant duplicate discussion, so I'm locking this one.