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Switzerland talks about limiting weapons

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:03 am
by PappaGun
Switzerland is discussing limiting weapons apparently in reaction to a mass shooting there in which 14 people were killed, albeit 10 years ago.
The issue as it is portrayed sounds very similar to some of the anti-gun positions in the US.
Swiss gun rights are slowly being chipped away.
To me this shows why an inch can't be given to our RKBA.

Interesting statistic:

Number of firearms in SELECTED (emphasis mine) countries:

US 96
Yemen54
Switzerland 45
Finland 45
Cyprus 36
Saudi Arabia 35
Lebanon 34
Iraq 34
Spain 10
China 4

I have a problem with the selection though. Who knows what countries were left out for what reasons and to make what point.
Then the author goes on to say that according to the UN (Of all authorities) that Switzerland has a murder rate of 0.7 and the US has a rate 5.2. But she does not say that this is a murder rate from guns. :mad5

I like the WSJ over a whole host of other papers, but they are beginning to inject more and more bias and just plan bad reporting in their pages.

Here's a link:

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ETA,
Sorry, it looks like the link won't allow the whole article to show.
If you go to
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you can see the article

Re: Switzerland talks about limiting weapons

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:56 pm
by mgood
PappaGun wrote:Number of firearms in SELECTED (emphasis mine) countries:

US 96
Yemen54
Switzerland 45
Finland 45
Cyprus 36
Saudi Arabia 35
Lebanon 34
Iraq 34
Spain 10
China 4
:headscratch I don't understand. I'm pretty sure there are more than 96 firearms in the US. What is this list tying to communicate?

Re: Switzerland talks about limiting weapons

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:03 pm
by PappaGun
mgood wrote:
PappaGun wrote:Number of firearms in SELECTED (emphasis mine) countries:

US 96
Yemen54
Switzerland 45
Finland 45
Cyprus 36
Saudi Arabia 35
Lebanon 34
Iraq 34
Spain 10
China 4
:headscratch I don't understand. I'm pretty sure there are more than 96 firearms in the US. What is this list tying to communicate?
Sorry, you can't read my mind?

That is the number of guns per 100 people.

And the murder rate is per 100,000 people.

Re: Switzerland talks about limiting weapons

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:10 pm
by WildBill
It sounds like the Swiss government may be moving away from it's long tradition of neutrality and independence. Too bad.

Re: Switzerland talks about limiting weapons

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:48 pm
by Abraham
Some years back I spent time in Switzerland and was astonished at how militant it was: Deuce and a halfs filled armed troops seen everywhere, fighter jets constantly flying over close to the ground, and those in the reserve military were sent home with their rifles...

Has it changed in this regard...?

Re: Switzerland talks about limiting weapons

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:13 am
by WildBill
Abraham wrote:Some years back I spent time in Switzerland and was astonished at how militant it was: Deuce and a halfs filled armed troops seen everywhere, fighter jets constantly flying over close to the ground, and those in the reserve military were sent home with their rifles...

Has it changed in this regard...?
Apparently there was a ballet initiative to do just this. It failed by a 57% vote against the measure.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/Specials/Gu ... d=29484482" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Switzerland talks about limiting weapons

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:26 am
by Beiruty
In Lebanon, the number 35 gun/100 is too low. Virtually all houses have at least an AK or 2, pistols are common too. but not worn openly. People prefer to keep an AK in their car instead. AK are full auto too. Militias like Irann funded Hizb has all kind or arsenal, including Anti Tank, Anti Ship, and short and long range missiles. Latest rumors, is that Iran supplied them with Cruise missiles. Militia Members take home their gears for easy deployment.