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NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:45 pm
by Dad24GreatKids
Curious more than anything. Does anyone know? Will NCIS checks continue to be done if there is a government shutdown?

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:53 pm
by Pawpaw
I'm not sure. I don't know much about the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. ;-)

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:56 pm
by 74novaman
Good thing we have chls and don't have to worry about it!

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:07 pm
by Dad24GreatKids
Pawpaw wrote:I'm not sure. I don't know much about the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. ;-)
:shock: You know thats what happens when you don't take time to read posts very clearly. Before I sent this I did a forum search on NCIS check. I got lots of hits so I went with it. If I had taken the time to scan a few of them I would have found out that it is NCIC... :lol:

And 74Novaman is right, this is one of the bennies of having a CHL.

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:12 pm
by OldSchool
NICS would not be an essential service, based on the definition I was given today. Think of it this way: Those who are working during the furlough would risk not being paid for the work, depending on the mood of Congress.

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:21 pm
by dcphoto
Dad24GreatKids wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:I'm not sure. I don't know much about the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. ;-)
:shock: You know thats what happens when you don't take time to read posts very clearly. Before I sent this I did a forum search on NCIS check. I got lots of hits so I went with it. If I had taken the time to scan a few of them I would have found out that it is NCIC... :lol:

And 74Novaman is right, this is one of the bennies of having a CHL.
NCIS = Navy Criminal Investigative Service

NCIC = National Crime Information Center

NICS = National Instant Check System

NICS is the proper acronym for the background check you get when you purchase a firearm.

My guess is that NICS will be shut down, and you won't be able to purchase a firearm. UNLESS you have a CHL, and then you don't have to have the NICS check, so you're golden. :coolgleamA: :cheers2:

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:25 pm
by Dad24GreatKids
Thanks for clarifying the alphabet soup.

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:29 pm
by G.A. Heath
If NICS does get shutdown due to no budget agreement then you can bet that the NRA and SAF will have papers filed for court cases as soon as that very first call is ignored.

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:36 pm
by Pawpaw
Dad24GreatKids wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:I'm not sure. I don't know much about the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. ;-)
:shock: You know thats what happens when you don't take time to read posts very clearly. Before I sent this I did a forum search on NCIS check. I got lots of hits so I went with it. If I had taken the time to scan a few of them I would have found out that it is NCIC... :lol:

And 74Novaman is right, this is one of the bennies of having a CHL.
I hope you weren't offended. I just couldn't help having a little fun! :evil2:

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:43 pm
by Dad24GreatKids
Pawpaw wrote: I hope you weren't offended. I just couldn't help having a little fun! :evil2:
Not at all. ;-) If anything I am a bit embarrassed by my error. :shock:

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:47 pm
by Dad24GreatKids
G.A. Heath wrote:If NICS does get shutdown due to no budget agreement then you can bet that the NRA and SAF will have papers filed for court cases as soon as that very first call is ignored.
Asking for what? That NICS be considered essential or that it be waved during the shutdown?

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:54 pm
by dcphoto
Dad24GreatKids wrote:
G.A. Heath wrote:If NICS does get shutdown due to no budget agreement then you can bet that the NRA and SAF will have papers filed for court cases as soon as that very first call is ignored.
Asking for what? That NICS be considered essential or that it be waved during the shutdown?
Probably both, on the grounds that withholding it is abridging 2A rights.

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:02 pm
by G.A. Heath
Dad24GreatKids wrote:
G.A. Heath wrote:If NICS does get shutdown due to no budget agreement then you can bet that the NRA and SAF will have papers filed for court cases as soon as that very first call is ignored.
Asking for what? That NICS be considered essential or that it be waved during the shutdown?
Probably in that very order for the NRA, and the other way around for the SAF. After all the second amendment defines a civil right and is therefore essential. Imagine that anyone arrested by the feds during a shutdown being denied due process because it wasn't considered essential.

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:19 pm
by OldSchool
G.A. Heath wrote:If NICS does get shutdown due to no budget agreement then you can bet that the NRA and SAF will have papers filed for court cases as soon as that very first call is ignored.
That would be frivolous. The reason for the furlough is the lack of a spending authorization. No authorization, no spending money. No spending money, no services. This is above and beyond the lack of a budgetary authorization, which should have been done six months ago. It's all out of sequence, which is why it's so "different this time" (to borrow a phrase from those economists who said that property values and the stock market would never go down).

Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:29 pm
by txyaloo
I suspect the NICS phone operators will be out of work, but NICS e-check should stay up.