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Momma says she wants justice for her good boy son who was killed instead of scared off by homeowner.

wgoforth wrote:If this has been posted, I haven't seen it.

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Momma says she wants justice for her good boy son who was killed instead of scared off by homeowner.

Its sad, but if the accounts are true then justice was served.

I don't think anyone ever deserves to die but when you make choices like breaking into someones house you must take the consequences. I feel for the boys mother, I could not imagine the pain of loosing a child. However had she done a good job raising her son this may not have happened, reading the article I got the feeling that she was not very involved in her sons life. And no "normal childs" do not get into fights everyday, arrested or sent to alternative school. It seems like there is a problem in learning accountability that started with at least the mother.

Boo hoo, kids too stupid to see that the guy is looking through the window right at him, while he's trying to break in then all this man did was make sure he can't pro-create

loadedliberal wrote:I don't think anyone ever deserves to die but when you make choices like breaking into someones house you must take the consequences. I feel for the boys mother, I could not imagine the pain of loosing a child. However had she done a good job raising her son this may not have happened, reading the article I got the feeling that she was not very involved in her sons life. And no "normal childs" do not get into fights everyday, arrested or sent to alternative school. It seems like there is a problem in learning accountability that started with at least the mother.

I know it would be a bit "off-topic"...but please explain this.

I am curious...your point of view.

loadedliberal wrote:I don't think anyone ever deserves to die but when you make choices like breaking into someones house you must take the consequences. I feel for the boys mother, I could not imagine the pain of loosing a child. However had she done a good job raising her son this may not have happened, reading the article I got the feeling that she was not very involved in her sons life. And no "normal childs" do not get into fights everyday, arrested or sent to alternative school. It seems like there is a problem in learning accountability that started with at least the mother.

I am still trying to figure out why you call yourself "loadedLIBERAL", instead of "loadedmoderate"...because I'm pretty conservative and I agree with a lot of what you said...except that I'm Texan enough to know that there are some seriously bad folks out there that, if they meet an untimely end, I'll only feel bad for the folks who were forced to defend against them...

flintknapper wrote:

loadedliberal wrote:I don't think anyone ever deserves to die but when you make choices like breaking into someones house you must take the consequences. I feel for the boys mother, I could not imagine the pain of loosing a child. However had she done a good job raising her son this may not have happened, reading the article I got the feeling that she was not very involved in her sons life. And no "normal childs" do not get into fights everyday, arrested or sent to alternative school. It seems like there is a problem in learning accountability that started with at least the mother.

I know it would be a bit "off-topic"...but please explain this.

I am curious...your point of view.

Perhaps a blanket statement here was too much, some do "deserve" to die some die by the choices they make. I do not think this kid deserved to die but at the same time he is responsible for his actions and his fate was sealed when he tried to break into someones house.

They were talking about this incident on the radio this morning during my morning commute. The mother (naturally) said that her little darling was a "good boy" . . . but of course she left out the fact that this "good boy" was going to an alternative school, which is newspeak for the place they send young thugs. Nor did she explain why this "good boy" was breaking into someone else's home.

You can be sure that this wasn't the little miscreant's first crime, and if he hadn't been shot, it wouldn't be his last.

We're all just a little bit safer in our homes and persons with the demise of young Ernest Morris.

What did the dad have to say? Oh wait...
never mind.

That's one of the real issues here and in many other cases like it.

This is a tragedy for all involved. For the teenager, for his mother and for the homeowner. The homeowner broke no law, but there is no justice in the death of a child. Now the homeowner must live with that.

The best that we can do is to say a prayer for both families.

Lots of people knock on my window with a crowbar when they can't get in the door

Homeowner Kills Teen Burglary Suspect

Once again I find myself disgusted by the chosen headline selected by the "mainstream" media.

I find it utterly disgusting how often media sources opt to portray criminals in a sympathetic light. How about "Homeowner forced to defend himself against criminal" as a headline?

There is NO way of knowing the intent of the "teen" in question, and to assume "burglary" was the sole purpose of his criminal act is naive, and frankly negligent. We don't know if the "teen" in question was out for property, OR if he was out to rape / murder any unsuspecting occupant who may have been in the residence he was illegally forcing his way into at the time of his demise. What we DO KNOW is that this individual did NOT respect personal property OR the law, and as far as I'm concerned, it is logical to conclude that the individual in question also has NO RESPECT for human life, and is therefore a threat.

As a citizen, I would much rather read about a criminal breaking into a home with a crow bar getting shot and killed by a homeowner, rather than about how a homeowner was killed by in their home by a criminal with a crow bar.

I will comment though...

Would you guys have shot through the glass?

I don't think I would have. I wasn't there, thank God, but my guess is... had I been in this situation, I would have gone to another room and called the cops. I would have camped out in that room until
A) this guys is in there with me, at which time he would have been shot
B) the cops show up and nab him

If I open a blind and someone is working on opening that window, I just don't think I'd shoot through the glass at him.
This home owner is well within his rights to do so, but I'm just sayin'... would you have done that?

Scott in Houston wrote:I will comment though...

Would you guys have shot through the glass?

I don't think I would have. I wasn't there, thank God, but my guess is... had I been in this situation, I would have gone to another room and called the cops. I would have camped out in that room until
A) this guys is in there with me, at which time he would have been shot
B) the cops show up and nab him

If I open a blind and someone is working on opening that window, I just don't think I'd shoot through the glass at him.
This home owner is well within his rights to do so, but I'm just sayin'... would you have done that?

Without a doubt I would! Why would I wait for him to get inside the house where he has a better chance of harming me or my family?

I don't see where the homeowner did anything wrong, legally or morally.

Pawpaw wrote:

Scott in Houston wrote:I will comment though...

Would you guys have shot through the glass?

I don't think I would have. I wasn't there, thank God, but my guess is... had I been in this situation, I would have gone to another room and called the cops. I would have camped out in that room until
A) this guys is in there with me, at which time he would have been shot
B) the cops show up and nab him

If I open a blind and someone is working on opening that window, I just don't think I'd shoot through the glass at him.
This home owner is well within his rights to do so, but I'm just sayin'... would you have done that?

Without a doubt I would! Why would I wait for him to get inside the house where he has a better chance of harming me or my family?

I don't see where the homeowner did anything wrong, legally or morally.

Don't misunderstand me, please. I'm not saying he was wrong on any level... morally or legally.
I'm just asking what you would do.

If I was alone, which I'm inferring he was based on the story, I wouldn't shoot through the glass. I maybe would if I'm home with family, but not if I'm alone. Maybe that's just me.
But killing someone would SUCK on so many levels...even when justified and valid. I just don't see myself doing that through the window. Once they're inside... it's a whole different ball game.