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file this under the "well, duh" catagory

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:13 pm
by 74novaman
An article in the Detroit Free Press, with the bold headline: Michigan: 10 years after concealed weapons law, unclear why many in state we gun shy. :lol:
http://www.freep.com/article/20110731/N ... re-gun-shy
Followed immediately by a man open carrying a large, SCARY looking black gun in a Starbucks of all places.... ;-)

The article isn't as bad as the picture choice would make it seem, however. Some of the gems:
During the debate, opponents of the change warned of gun-toting, trigger-happy citizens loose on the streets. But violent crimes have been rare among carrying a concealed weapon license holders...Still, anti-gun activists say changing the law was a grave mistake. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence Web site describes state reforms like the one enacted in Michigan as "a recipe for disaster."
So, history and facts have proven you wrong, but there's a CHANCE it is a bad idea, darn it! "rlol"
Wayne County Sheriff Benny Napoleon said he had been opposed to the law and was concerned about flooding the streets with guns. But, he said, "it has turned out not as bad as I suspected that it would."Napoleon said he would like to see expanded training for people seeking concealed weapons permits.
So, your fears were proven unfounded, but that clearly means those irresponsible gun owners need more training! :roll:

The second part of the article proceedes to then debunk the VPCs "Concealed Carry Killers" numbers, and the final gem:
Henigan said academic research nationally shows "no downward effect" on crime rates in jurisdictions with liberal concealed carry regulations. Further, he said, the evidence of an increase in aggravated assaults in such jurisdictions is "very clear." Claims to the contrary, he said, have been "thoroughly debunked."

Not surprisingly, the leading claimant to the contrary, economist John Lott, thoroughly disagrees.

During the past 15 years, more than two dozen peer-reviewed analyses of the effect of right-to-carry laws on crime have been published in academic journals, Lott said. Sixteen found that concealed carry reduced crime; 10 suggested no discernible impact. None showed crime to have increased in right-to-carry jurisdictions, Lott said.
So they quote the anti as spouting things out of his rear, which no back up, and Lott repeating years, numbers of studies, etc....I love it!! "rlol" "rlol"

Actually a pretty good article, all things considered. :txflag:

Re: file this under the "well, duh" catagory

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:51 pm
by JJVP
Already posted here.

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Re: file this under the "well, duh" catagory

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:06 pm
by 74novaman
JJVP wrote:Already posted here.

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darn! well, im sure this will be locked soon. :cheers2:

Re: file this under the "well, duh" catagory

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:14 pm
by USA1
In before the lock. :woohoo

Re: file this under the "well, duh" catagory

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:43 am
by The Mad Moderate
IBTL

Re: file this under the "well, duh" catagory

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:51 am
by The Annoyed Man
Me too. :mrgreen: