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Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:48 pm
by thatguy
I wanted to share a training drill of sorts that I use. When coming out of a location with a lot of foot traffic, like Walmart, I will test myself by imagining that the 3rd person I see will be a threat. I do this to keep myself honest on threat assesment and not to be bias or profile a certain sterotype. I have shared this with my wife when one day coming out of all places, Walmart, I am preparing myself to spring into my action plan (which is to scream like a little girl and run) and had on my gameface. As I saw the "bad guy" coming toward the store I realized he looked different, something was familiar and I then I saw the distinct collar of a minister. My wife got a big kick out of the deal and now when ever I voice my suspicions she reminds me that "every third person could be a minister.
I guess she is right and I try to remind myself of that
but watch the hands, always watch the hands.
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:04 pm
by Weg
Or it could be the age old, " bad guy dressed like a minister ploy".
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:10 pm
by Texas Dan Mosby
not to be bias or profile a certain stereotype...
Do you eat green bananas or tomato's?
Wouldn't want to be biased, would you?
There is NOTHING wrong with bias OR profiling as long as your criteria is based on fact or experience. BOTH are survival skills developed LONG before we had the "intelligent" brains we have today as humans.
After eating a few green and yellow bananas, how many more green bananas would you eat after you figured out they taste like garbage compared to the yellow bananas? Not many, if you're smart, and you PROFILE the bananas.
The same process can, and SHOULD, be used with humans. If it looks like a thug, walks and talks like a thug, then the odds are pretty good that it IS a thug, and is worthy of further scrutiny.
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:18 pm
by apostate
Tell your wife: "In God we trust. Everyone else - watch their hands."
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:58 pm
by Heartland Patriot
Texas Dan Mosby wrote:not to be bias or profile a certain stereotype...
Do you eat green bananas or tomato's?
Wouldn't want to be biased, would you?
There is NOTHING wrong with bias OR profiling as long as your criteria is based on fact or experience. BOTH are survival skills developed LONG before we had the "intelligent" brains we have today as humans.
After eating a few green and yellow bananas, how many more green bananas would you eat after you figured out they taste like garbage compared to the yellow bananas? Not many, if you're smart, and you PROFILE the bananas.
The same process can, and SHOULD, be used with humans. If it looks like a thug, walks and talks like a thug, then the odds are pretty good that it IS a thug, and is worthy of further scrutiny.
Those who push for us to have a PC existence somehow readily look past the factor of "how did we manage to get here in the first place" in regards to humanity surviving all kinds of terrible things in the distant (and not so distant) past...just imagine the truly wonderful world if our distant ancestors had not been so biased against those nice big kitties with the large incisor teeth...poor big kitties, they just wanted a couple of new friends over for dinner, ha ha!
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:25 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Brian Mobley wrote:I wanted to share a training drill of sorts that I use. When coming out of a location with a lot of foot traffic, like Walmart, I will test myself by imagining that the 3rd person I see will be a threat. I do this to keep myself honest on threat assessment and not to be bias or profile a certain sterotype. I have shared this with my wife when one day coming out of all places, Walmart, I am preparing myself to spring into my action plan (which is to scream like a little girl and run) and had on my gameface. As I saw the "bad guy" coming toward the store I realized he looked different, something was familiar and I then I saw the distinct collar of a minister. My wife got a big kick out of the deal and now when ever I voice my suspicions she reminds me that "every third person could be a minister.
I guess she is right and I try to remind myself of that
but watch the hands, always watch the hands.
My adorable (32 year old) daughter went online and found some sort of "class" that one can take to become an ordained minister. I forget what nutty religion it was. She was raised christian! So as a joke of sorts, she took the class and passed the test. Poof... she became an ordained minister... LOL. She loved waving that dumb pocket license around for a year or so. She let it lapse.
The real scam behind it all was for some kind of "tax cheat" deal. She doesn't make enough money to play that game, but anyway, the actual purpose was simply to claim ordained minister and hide money under this guise.
I realize my post is off topic, but so is your post topic.
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:53 pm
by apostate
03Lightningrocks wrote:The real scam behind it all was for some kind of "tax cheat" deal. She doesn't make enough money to play that game, but anyway, the actual purpose was simply to claim ordained minister and hide money under this guise.
So much for "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."
I knew a guy in college who got mail-order ordained so he could officiate a friend's wedding, but that's a story for another day.
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:49 am
by MadMonkey
Over half my family are ordained ministers... my late father, stepfather, my mother, brother and one of my two sisters. All legitimate (no mail orders!
).
All that aside, I use a drill that I read about a long time ago... any time I'm in a store or something, I pretend that any time I round a corner, I have to spot and identify any potential threats before they see me (a threat is any person). If I forget and they spot me first, or come around the corner without me noticing, I slap myself to remind me to do better next time.
It actually works, believe it or not. My SA has skyrocketed since I started doing it!
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:24 am
by v-rog
i pretend that my kids are liitle IEDs running around and exploding all around me. I often find myself bunkered down underneath the coffee table and screaming for mommy...
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:31 am
by speedsix
Brian Mobley wrote:I wanted to share a training drill of sorts that I use. When coming out of a location with a lot of foot traffic, like Walmart, I will test myself by imagining that the 3rd person I see will be a threat. I do this to keep myself honest on threat assesment and not to be bias or profile a certain sterotype. I have shared this with my wife when one day coming out of all places, Walmart, I am preparing myself to spring into my action plan (which is to scream like a little girl and run) and had on my gameface. As I saw the "bad guy" coming toward the store I realized he looked different, something was familiar and I then I saw the distinct collar of a minister. My wife got a big kick out of the deal and now when ever I voice my suspicions she reminds me that "every third person could be a minister.
I guess she is right and I try to remind myself of that
but watch the hands, always watch the hands.
...good mental practice...a minister's collar would make a great disguise...they've used it in more than a couple movies...people would assume that he's the good guy...maybe so, maybe not...your idea will also remind you your threat may be a kid...or a grandma...watch the hands, watch the hands...you're exactly right...
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:42 am
by kjolly
Threats are where you find them. Watch the hands....
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:53 am
by Jumping Frog
Brian Mobley wrote: I will test myself by imagining that the 3rd person I see will be a threat.
Why limit yourself to every 3rd person? How about "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet."
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:50 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
As a ricochet thought off the "minister" theme, in the movie "The Town", a group
of armored car robbers were nuns. Nuns with EBR's - what a thought.
"The Town" refers to Charlestown, Mass, which is a City of Boston neighborhood. For a time,
this tough neighborhood was home to a large number of armored car robbers.
This movie has some gripping robbery and car escape scenes in the tiny confines of Boston's North End.
I'd recommend it.
SIA
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:58 am
by kjolly
I have a friend that to all outward appearances seems normal but for some reason he got one of the on-line ministry certifications. We are always ragging on him.
Re: Every 3rd person is a minister
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:36 am
by RPB
