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Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:20 pm
by RPB
Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans
By Evan F. Nappen, Attorney at Law
Saturday, November 19th, 2011 at 6:05 PM

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Saiga 12’s, Benelli M4’s and virtually any other tactical/military shotgun can no longer be banned from import by the ATF.

A little noticed provision tucked into a large appropriations bill obviously flew under the radar of the “Brady Bunch” and the “Illegal Mayors.”

The new law effectively kills ATF’s plan to stop tactical/military shotgun imports by way of abusing the “sporting purpose” requirement and their agency rulemaking powers.

The “Fiscal Year 2012 Agriculture, Commerce/Justice/Science (CJS) and Transportation/Housing/Urban Development (THUD) Appropriations bills”, also known as the “Mini-Bus”, was passed by Congress, and signed into law by President Obama on November 18, 2011.

The new law reads as follows:

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Re: Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:40 am
by Dave2
Woo! Now maybe their prices will be reasonable again.

Re: Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:45 am
by Jumping Frog
Well, I see it was de-funded for one year, which is a good start for a short-term solution, but that doesn't help us next budget cycle.

I'd like to see the entire "sporting purposes" clause removed for all firearms.

Re: Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:24 am
by RPB
I hope they can make progress on the US ACOE bills.

So far that's at least 2 "government 'allowing' us our gun rights we shouldn't need permission for" bills Obama signed (or auto-penned)
National Parks in the credit card bill and this restriction on the ATF for one year in a budget bill.

Whereas ...Romney just banned guns ...

I sooo hope and pray we get a REAL Pro-2A President soon so stuff doesn't have to be tucked away and concealed in credit card or budget bills.

Re: Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:36 am
by Medic624
RPB wrote:I hope they can make progress on the US ACOE bills.

So far that's at least 2 "government 'allowing' us our gun rights we shouldn't need permission for" bills Obama signed (or auto-penned)
National Parks in the credit card bill and this restriction on the ATF for one year in a budget bill.

Whereas ...Romney just banned guns ...



I sooo hope and pray we get a REAL President soon so stuff doesn't have to be tucked away and concealed in credit card or budget bills.
Took the liberty of fixin' it ... ;-)

Re: Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:31 pm
by ELB
This is what the NRA was doing while the National Association for Gun Rights was sniping at the NRA and squalling about Trojan Horses and such (and while MAIG was hyperventilating).

Not only the shotgun thing, but provisions making it permananently illegal for the Federal government to set up gun and gun owner registries either directly or from NICS or FFL records. Note that for the last ten or fifteen years, these prohibitions had been voted in yearly as part of appropriations bills (apparently like the ban sporting shotgun provision is now), but they are now a permanent part of law. So much for trojan horses.

Here's the NRA-ILA release on all the gun provisions that became law on Friday:

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Twelve Big Wins for Gun Owners

Friday, November 18, 2011

The final conference report on the combined Fiscal Year 2012 Agriculture, Commerce/Justice/Science (CJS) and Transportation/Housing/Urban Development (THUD) Appropriations bills—also known as the “Mini-Bus,” was passed by both the U.S. House and the U.S. Senate, and has been signed into law.

One of the most important ways that Congress has protected the Second Amendment is through a number of general provisions included in various appropriations bills. Many of these provisions have been included in the bills for many years—some of the provisions go back almost three decades. This conference report is no exception, as it contains 12 provisions that strengthen the Second Amendment and protect the American people.

Specifically, the conference report makes PERMANENT the following protections:

Firearms Database/National Gun Registry Prohibition. No funds may be used to create, maintain or administer a database of firearms owners or their firearms. This prohibition has been in place since Fiscal Year 1979, and prevents the federal government from establishing a national gun registry.

Former Firearms Dealers Information Retrieval Prohibition. No funds may be used to electronically retrieve personally identifying information gathered by federal firearms licensees. The provision prohibits the creation of a gun registry from dealers’ records that are required by law to be surrendered to the federal government when a dealer goes out of business. This provision has been included since FY 1997.

Information Gathering Prohibition/24-Hour Destruction of Records. A prohibition on the use of funds to retain any information gathered as a part of an approved instant background check for more than 24 hours. This provision protects the privacy of law-abiding gun buyers by prohibiting gun buyers’ personal information about legal gun purchases from being retained by government authorities for more than 24 hours after a firearm background check. It has been included since FY 1999.
In addition, the conference report adds two NEW provisions designed to bolster our gun rights and protect the Second Amendment from unelected bureaucrats who would twist the law to facilitate their gun-control agenda.

Prohibit Funding for “Gun Walking” Operations. No funds may be used to knowingly transfer firearms to agents of drug cartels unless U.S. law enforcement personnel control or monitor the firearms at all time. This amendment is designed to prevent the Justice Department (or any government entity) from spending taxpayer dollars on “gun walking” programs like Operation Fast and Furious.

Shotgun Importation Protections. Prohibits the Department of Justice from requiring imported shotguns to meet a “sporting purposes” test that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) has used to prohibit the importation of shotguns with one or more features disliked by the Agency, such as adjustable stocks, extended magazine tubes, etc.

Finally, the conference report RETAINS the following provisions:

Curio and Relic Definition. A prohibition on the use of funds to change the definition of a “curio or relic.” This provision protects the status of collectible firearms for future generations of firearms collectors.

Physical Inventory Prohibition. Prohibition on a requirement to allow a physical inventory of Federal Firearms Licensees. The Clinton Administration proposed a rule in 2000 to require an annual inventory by all licensees. While the Bush Administration eventually withdrew the proposal, Congress has still passed this preventive provision every year since FY 2007.

Business Activity. A prohibition on the use of funds to deny a Federal Firearms License (FFL) or renewal of an FFL on the basis of low business activity. This provision prohibits BATFE from denying federal firearms license applications or renewals based on a dealer’s low business volume alone.

Firearms Trace Data Disclaimer. A requirement that any trace data released must include a disclaimer stating such trace data cannot be used to draw broad conclusion about firearms-related crime.

Firearms Parts Export to Canada. A prohibition on the use of funds to require an export license for small firearms parts valued at less than $500 for export to Canada. This provision removed an unnecessary and burdensome requirement on U.S. gun manufacturers that was imposed under the Clinton Administration.

Importation of Curios and Relics. A prohibition on the use of funds to arbitrarily deny importation of qualifying curio and relic firearms. This provision ensures that collectible firearms that meet all legal requirements for importation into the United States are not prevented from import by executive branch fiat.

Transfer of BATFE Authority. A prohibition on the use of funds to transfer any duty or responsibility of the BATFE to any other agency or department. This provision was written in response to a Clinton Administration plan to transfer firearms enforcement to the FBI or Secret Service. It also prohibits the Executive branch from skirting the will of Congress by allowing another agency to implement policies the BATFE is prohibited from implementing.

Re: Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:33 pm
by Gyrogearhead
Does anyone know how to find out quickly and easily which congressmen voted for this legislation? If we had a list we could all phone or email our congressmen to express our personal thanks for a job well done. They have been taking a collective beating lately over the economy & etc. and would probably appreciate a little pat on the back. :clapping: Who knows, it may even encourage some of them to support our next 2A legislation. :thumbs2:

Just my 2c,

Gerry

Re: Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:50 pm
by ajwakeboarder
:iagree:

Re: Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:59 am
by Jumping Frog
Gyrogearhead wrote:Does anyone know how to find out quickly and easily which congressmen voted for this legislation? If we had a list we could all phone or email our congressmen to express our personal thanks for a job well done.
I chuckled when I read this picturing a phone call thanking them for voting these pro-gun provisions, and getting the response, "I voted for WHAT?????"

This was buried in a bill. Sure, there were some good apples that were deliberately getting this pushed through, but I also think a lot of the congressman neither read the bill nor knew what they were voting for. :headscratch

Re: Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:55 am
by GeekwithaGun
Gyrogearhead wrote:Does anyone know how to find out quickly and easily which congressmen voted for this legislation? If we had a list we could all phone or email our congressmen to express our personal thanks for a job well done. They have been taking a collective beating lately over the economy & etc. and would probably appreciate a little pat on the back. :clapping: Who knows, it may even encourage some of them to support our next 2A legislation. :thumbs2:

Just my 2c,

Gerry
Comment #10 below the article
10. http://gunowners.org/amendment-to-end-q ... senate.htm.
Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX)
Lets all do our part to keep his campaign coffers full.

Re: Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:48 pm
by Weg
Importation of Curios and Relics: A prohibition on the use of funds to arbitrarily deny importation of qualifying curio and relic firearms. This provision ensures that collectible firearms that meet all legal requirements for importation into the United States are not prevented from import by executive branch fiat.


I hope this means all those Garands and Carbines that are sitting in South Korea can be imported now, that would be great.