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...is illegal. But is it legal to have it in my vehicle at the track's parking lot? I hope this makes sense. TIA

CheckonChico wrote:...is illegal. But is it legal to have it in my vehicle at the track's parking lot? I hope this makes sense. TIA

In my OPINION, if the parking lot is not posted with a compliant 30.06 sign, then it is ok to store a legal firearm in your vehicle.
I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice.

"Premises" has the meaning.....

I carry mine in the truck to Lone Star Park in GP. It is legal.

fannypacker wrote:I carry mine in the truck to Lone Star Park in GP. It is legal.

Thanks! I know that in the dps website it says its also illegal to carry in schools but it is not illegal to leave it in your vehicle I just couldn't find anything pertaining horse tracks.

...look in your LS-16 and under PC46.03(a)(4)...it says "...on the premises..."

...below in (c) (1), it tells you that , for this section, "...'premises' has the meaning assigned in 46.035"...

...go to 46.035 and look at (f)(3)...and it is specific...once you look it up and read it...it's yours...learn to back up all our answers in the written law and you'll be stronger and able to help others...and you'll never be before a judge saying "But someone told me..."...

speedsix wrote:...look in your LS-16 and under PC46.03(a)(4)...it says "...on the premises..."

...below in (c) (1), it tells you that , for this section, "...'premises' has the meaning assigned in 46.035"...

...go to 46.035 and look at (f)(3)...and it is specific...once you look it up and read it...it's yours...learn to back up all our answers in the written law and you'll be stronger and able to help others...and you'll never be before a judge saying "But someone told me..."...

Thank you! I'll look into it.

speedsix wrote:...and you'll never be before a judge saying "But someone told me..."...

But if I tell them, "Speedsix told me . . . ", then that is an instant acquittal!

...nope, but if you tell them WHAT I told you, and show 'em where I got it...anyone who can/will read can figure it out...unless they're afflicted with a closed mind...

Hey speedsix, what if the horse track is not a licensed horse track but a private training center or a "bush track"? These are privately owned horse tracks used for training, conditioning, and schooling. There is no pari-mutuel and such, the center is strictly for training. Any gambling is prohibited but I am sure people still do it out of sight. Would this "training center" fall under "horse track"? Thus making carrying concealed illegal?

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I'm logged on through a mobile device, thus making it difficult to scan through the guns laws handbook.

CheckonChico wrote:Hey speedsix, what if the horse track is not a licensed horse track but a private training center or a "bush track"? These are privately owned horse tracks used for training, conditioning, and schooling. There is no pari-mutuel and such, the center is strictly for training. Any gambling is prohibited but I am sure people still do it out of sight. Would this "training center" fall under "horse track"? Thus making carrying concealed illegal?

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I'm logged on through a mobile device, thus making it difficult to scan through the guns laws handbook.

I'll answer that. Section 46.01 of the Texas Penal Code defines racetrack as:
...(15) “Racetrack” means a facility licensed under the Texas Racing Act for the conduct of pari-mutuel wagering on greyhound racing or horse racing.

So, unless it is a LICENSED for pari-mutuel wagering, then no it would not be off limits per that part of the statute. A 30.06 or other proper notice WOULD prohibit you though.

And before anyone goes there, it would NOT be a school for training horses unless it was accredited by the Texas Education Association as a school.

That clears it up, Thanks Keith! and yes, it is not a school of any sorts. That is just a term used by the horse racing community to describe teaching/training a horse how to race

...well, I'll be...another law quoter...whaddaya know 'bout that...and mighty quick 'bout the school angle...someone's had their coffee!!!

Yes sir! Show the LEO and the Judge that you know the law as well or better than they do. They'll appreciate the refresher course.

...you can be cute about it if you want to...but that's why we HAVE the law...it works FOR us just like it works ON us!!! if you can come up with a better plan...I'm all ears...

...You can be polite and PC and just take the hit because you don't wanna argue with the nice po-po or the judge...not me!!!