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Good Reminder on Cops

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:02 pm
by gigag04
I'm watching cops while I'm waiting on a dinner date, and they officer gets a call to go to a burglary. He says to the camera, en route, that he knows it's a burglary, he knows there is a gun involved, but he doesn't know who has the gun - the good guy or the bad guy.

It ended up being a funny ending, however, it gave me a good story to associate with what LEO's are thinking going into a call, and what info they may or may not have from the dispatcher.

I'm not sure how I will handle it if I'm ever in the situation when cops are running up to me, and I am armed, but it would probably involve lot's of compliance, and telling them I am armed, where it is, and the condition it is in (round chambered, safety off...etc).

Idunno - got me thinking. Thought I would share.

-nick

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:06 pm
by Venus Pax
Its important to think about. Make sure any relatives/friends know to give the 911 dispatcher your description along with your CHL status while on the phone reporting an emergency. It at least gives the LEOs a heads-up so that they don't assume that everything holding a gun has evil intentions.

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:35 pm
by bluelineman
It's probably best to holster your weapon before they arrive so you won't be confused for the bad guy.

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:42 pm
by KRM45
bluelineman wrote:It's probably best to holster your weapon before they arrive so you won't be confused for the bad guy.
This is good advice. Another suggestion is to not assume that what was told to the dipatcher was properly relayed to the officer arriving.

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:10 pm
by Chris
best thing to do is keep a distinct piece of clothing near your weapon. while a clown wig would probably be the best solution, a colored baseball cap would work. you can tell the dispatcher that you're wearing a blaze orange hunting cap. the police will instantly recognize you as the good guy when they arrive. how many bad guys wear blaze orange? or better yet, a cap with "GOOD GUY" in reflective writing on the front. :smile:

just something distinct that will easily identify you. when you say black shirt and blue pants with tennis shoes, that could be anyone. it's a lot easier to just say look for the "orange cap" and that not be misinterpreted when it's relayed to the responders; particularly when that sucker can be seen two blocks away.

still be expected to be disarmed though. a lot of phony 911 calls for help resulted in the execution of arriving officers.

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:01 pm
by txinvestigator
Chris wrote:best thing to do is keep a distinct piece of clothing near your weapon. while a clown wig would probably be the best solution, a colored baseball cap would work. you can tell the dispatcher that you're wearing a blaze orange hunting cap. the police will instantly recognize you as the good guy when they arrive. how many bad guys wear blaze orange? or better yet, a cap with "GOOD GUY" in reflective writing on the front. :smile:

just something distinct that will easily identify you. when you say black shirt and blue pants with tennis shoes, that could be anyone. it's a lot easier to just say look for the "orange cap" and that not be misinterpreted when it's relayed to the responders; particularly when that sucker can be seen two blocks away.

still be expected to be disarmed though. a lot of phony 911 calls for help resulted in the execution of arriving officers.
All the distinctive clothing will do for you is possibly tell the responding officers that the "orange cap" guy is alleged to be the non-offender.

Your best course of action is to be sure you do not turn towards the officers with you firearm, place it on the ground and put your hands in the air while announcing that your were the victim and the offender is the other guy.

Follow the officers commands immediately. You might get placed on the ground and cuffed initially, but after the scene is secure they will sort it out.

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:23 pm
by Skiprr
txinvestigator wrote:All the distinctive clothing will do for you is possibly tell the responding officers that the "orange cap" guy is alleged to be the non-offender.
Yeah, but you gotta admit that Chris's scenario of a guy wearing a red clown wig and holding a handgun might elicit a, er, less than favorable reaction from responding officers. ;-)

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:40 pm
by seamusTX
Skiprr wrote:Yeah, but you gotta admit that Chris's scenario of a guy wearing a red clown wig and holding a handgun might elicit a, er, less than favorable reaction from responding officers. ;-)
Does anyone remember the movie Ruthless People?

- Jim

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:07 pm
by jimlongley
Skiprr wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:All the distinctive clothing will do for you is possibly tell the responding officers that the "orange cap" guy is alleged to be the non-offender.
Yeah, but you gotta admit that Chris's scenario of a guy wearing a red clown wig and holding a handgun might elicit a, er, less than favorable reaction from responding officers. ;-)
ROFL :lol: :lol: :lol:

Halloween 1964, gosh! it was more than 42 years ago, ouch! Anyway - I was a volunteer fireman and we had a fire during the annual party for the kids at the firehouse. In the middle of the fire it was determined that we needed more Scott Air Pacs from the town bank, so one of the members of the Ladies' Auxillary swung into action and took her station wagon to pick up some for us.

The Police initially wouldn't let her take them - probably because of the clown suit complete with big red nose.

BTW, she was a "registered" clown, a member of the Telephone Pioneers of America clown troupe.

Just brought back a memory.

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:33 am
by stevie_d_64
Jim...

Thats banquet material for sure! Even after 42 years!!!

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:38 am
by stevie_d_64
Homeowner: "Yes, I am armed and am holding the burgler at gunpoint wearing....ahhhh....wearing...mmmmm...Hang on a second..."

911 operator: ????? "All units responding...Caller has stated that they are armed and holding suspect at gunpoint...And that they are...mmmm...Clothing challenged..."

See I can be PC...Right???

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:06 am
by Tote 9
Venus Pax wrote: It at least gives the LEOs a heads-up so that they don't assume that everything holding a gun has evil intentions.
This situation could turn out so many different ways it is hard to tell what would happen. Probbably the LEO would know as to what was happening at the time he arrived.

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:15 pm
by Stupid
Isn't this when a CHL badge is going to help? Just tell the despatcher that you are holding a CHL badge.

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:20 pm
by TraCoun
Stupid wrote:Isn't this when a CHL badge is going to help? Just tell the despatcher that you are holding a CHL badge.
It is something to think about, but anyone can go buy one of these, whether they have a CHL or not, BG's included .... Just a thought ...

TraCoun

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:21 pm
by seamusTX
Stupid wrote:Isn't this when a CHL badge is going to help? Just tell the despatcher that you are holding a CHL badge.
I dunno. How many times have you heard, "He had something shiny in his hand" after the police shot an unarmed person?

- Jim