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I was told by my smith to dry fire my Sig 226 about 10,000 times with all moving parts dripping with a good oil. I usually use a snap cap, but since I am trying to get the parts to polish themselves basically, is there any need to even have the slide on for this? Any advantage? Advantage of having slide OFF is of course a great weight difference.

It's very likely you'll ruin the gun if you dry fire without the slide.
The hammer has to hit *something*, right? Let it hit what it's supposed to hit.

I am surprised at the recommendations made by your smith I have used a recomendatation by Mr. Flintknapper with the last few guns that I have bought and it seems to work very well. I don’t remember the exact recipe, but it involves jewelers rouge and a little work. Nothing too extreme. Look it up and try it. You should be able to find it with the search function.

Commander Cody wrote:I am surprised at the recommendations made by your smith I have used a recomendatation by Mr. Flintknapper with the last few guns that I have bought and it seems to work very well. I don’t remember the exact recipe, but it involves jewelers rouge and a little work. Nothing too extreme. Look it up and try it. You should be able to find it with the search function.

Wellllll yes... but. This is the E2, which apparently there is a "secret" as to how to get these grips off. These are screwless and Sig claims you have to have a special tool and knowledge. The Smith said the best thing would be just to lube it to dripping, dry fire it to death and let the pieces polish one another.

So, how's the Lost Planet Airmen these days?

wgoforth wrote:

Commander Cody wrote:
So, how's the Lost Planet Airmen these days?

....of course they're still "Lost In The Ozone. Again"

I wouldn't carry a gun that needed to be dry fired 10000 times to be properly broken in. I swear.... Some gunsmiths have peculiar ideas.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I wouldn't carry a gun that needed to be dry fired 10000 times to be properly broken in. I swear.... Some gunsmiths have peculiar ideas.

Oh it shoots good, I was just asking him if he could polish the parts, make it smoother. Sig pats are coated with phosphate to prevent rusting....but it gives the parts a pebbly finish which leaves it feeling not as smooth as I would like. Of course, I was the same kid who was always adjusting his carburetor too.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I wouldn't carry a gun that needed to be dry fired 10000 times to be properly broken in. I swear.... Some gunsmiths have peculiar ideas.

I was fortunate enough to be able to fire a Sig P226 with the E2 trigger one day at the range. A young man asked about my box stock Springfield .45 Govt. Model, and so I let him run a magazine's worth through it. He liked it for the "classicness" or something like that. Anyway, he had that Sig and let me run a mag's worth through it. That thing wasn't too shabby in DA, but it was MAGICAL in SA...them calling the E2 trigger "short reset" is no joke...I am only a fair pistol shot, but at the 7 yards distance we were shooting, I put all but the first DA shot into a maybe two inch or so ragged hole...BEST TRIGGER EVER, at least that I have pulled. And he only had a few hundred rounds through it, maybe 200-300. I can't see why it would need any "work" done on it. Obviously, I'm not an expert or gunsmith or competition guy, so this is all just my two-bit opinion.

...Gun Butter...

Heartland Patriot wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:I wouldn't carry a gun that needed to be dry fired 10000 times to be properly broken in. I swear.... Some gunsmiths have peculiar ideas.

I was fortunate enough to be able to fire a Sig P226 with the E2 trigger one day at the range. A young man asked about my box stock Springfield .45 Govt. Model, and so I let him run a magazine's worth through it. He liked it for the "classicness" or something like that. Anyway, he had that Sig and let me run a mag's worth through it. That thing wasn't too shabby in DA, but it was MAGICAL in SA...them calling the E2 trigger "short reset" is no joke...I am only a fair pistol shot, but at the 7 yards distance we were shooting, I put all but the first DA shot into a maybe two inch or so ragged hole...BEST TRIGGER EVER, at least that I have pulled. And he only had a few hundred rounds through it, maybe 200-300. I can't see why it would need any "work" done on it. Obviously, I'm not an expert or gunsmith or competition guy, so this is all just my two-bit opinion.

You are correct...that SA and the short reset are vundabar, You find the sweet spot in that reset, ans you can almost make it sound like full auto. DA is another story. It's ~ok~ but polishing the parts would help a lot. I would like to turn it into a race gun. BTW, you can get the short reset added to most any sig, its a trigger package that costs around $100.

wgoforth wrote:

Heartland Patriot wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:I wouldn't carry a gun that needed to be dry fired 10000 times to be properly broken in. I swear.... Some gunsmiths have peculiar ideas.

I was fortunate enough to be able to fire a Sig P226 with the E2 trigger one day at the range. A young man asked about my box stock Springfield .45 Govt. Model, and so I let him run a magazine's worth through it. He liked it for the "classicness" or something like that. Anyway, he had that Sig and let me run a mag's worth through it. That thing wasn't too shabby in DA, but it was MAGICAL in SA...them calling the E2 trigger "short reset" is no joke...I am only a fair pistol shot, but at the 7 yards distance we were shooting, I put all but the first DA shot into a maybe two inch or so ragged hole...BEST TRIGGER EVER, at least that I have pulled. And he only had a few hundred rounds through it, maybe 200-300. I can't see why it would need any "work" done on it. Obviously, I'm not an expert or gunsmith or competition guy, so this is all just my two-bit opinion.

You are correct...that SA and the short reset are vundabar, You find the sweet spot in that reset, ans you can almost make it sound like full auto. DA is another story. It's ~ok~ but polishing the parts would help a lot. I would like to turn it into a race gun. BTW, you can get the short reset added to most any sig, its a trigger package that costs around $100.

I guess that makes sense, the DA was the only shot to be outside that ragged hole. And I do understand that everything has to be perfect on a competition gun. I'll keep that deal about the SRT in mind, a Sig is on my list for the future, someday.

gemini wrote:

wgoforth wrote:

Commander Cody wrote:
So, how's the Lost Planet Airmen these days?

....of course they're still "Lost In The Ozone. Again"

And wondering how many (besides us obviously) get that

wgoforth wrote:You are correct...that SA and the short reset are vundabar, You find the sweet spot in that reset, ans you can almost make it sound like full auto. DA is another story. It's ~ok~ but polishing the parts would help a lot. I would like to turn it into a race gun.

Hm. I can't think of any definition of "race gun" that includes DA/SA, at least not the normal context of USPSA/IPSC.

And, to me, the notion of dry-firing a pistol 10,000 times solely to smooth out a trigger just seems, well...wonky. Not to mention time consuming. I think I'd be looking for a different smith, one who is highly experienced customizing SIGs.

Skiprr wrote:

wgoforth wrote:You are correct...that SA and the short reset are vundabar, You find the sweet spot in that reset, ans you can almost make it sound like full auto. DA is another story. It's ~ok~ but polishing the parts would help a lot. I would like to turn it into a race gun.

Hm. I can't think of any definition of "race gun" that includes DA/SA, at least not the normal context of USPSA/IPSC.

And, to me, the notion of dry-firing a pistol 10,000 times solely to smooth out a trigger just seems, well...wonky. Not to mention time consuming. I think I'd be looking for a different smith, one who is highly experienced customizing SIGs.

I'm sure he was exaggerating by saying 10,000... but from looking online, smoothing the phosphate coated parts by substantial dry-firing does seen common. I am sure I was using wrong terminology in saying "race gun"... but would like to get involved in production class USPSA...which I understand you can change springs and polish parts and still be in that class.