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Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:16 am
by SecedeTX
http://www.khou.com/news/Firefighters-d ... 23308.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

100,000 rounds in the house

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:19 am
by i8godzilla
I could not make the link you provided work.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Firefigh ... 24308.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I believe this is the same story you referenced.

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:58 am
by OldCannon
i8godzilla wrote:I could not make the link you provided work.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Firefigh ... 24308.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I believe this is the same story you referenced.
That link wasn't so good either. I'm running Chrome and all I got was an advertisement window I couldn't dismiss. Reloading the page, fortunately, made the ad disappear.

It's always sad to see stories like this. I hope that guy had insurance.

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:33 pm
by SecedeTX
I posted from my iPhone. Basic story is that the ammo was cooking off and the firefighters had to let the house burn down. 40 guns and three dogs didn't make it

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:10 pm
by gigag04
Unless they caught it early, they probably would've gone defensive anyway. Residential structures are too unpredictable to enter w/o possible people inside. Risk a little to save a little, risk a lot to save a lot is what Ive heard our fireboys say.

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:18 pm
by andy123
Just want to say glad no one was hurt. As a firefighter my self that is a threat that generally stays way back in the mind or forgotten. Ive seen it happen once in 14 years of service. It does happen. Loose ammo is not as much as a big deal as ammo loaded into a semi auto. On the bright side they weren't being shot AT.

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:01 pm
by OldCannon
Looks like only one of the three dogs died, so it could have been worse. If I was a firefighter, I'd have let it go too. Powder and pieces of brass burning randomly off, along with flames and smoke, that makes for a bad equation. I know that if my house had a file, I'd likely tell the firefighters to stay out unless I knew all my black powder (the real stuff) and propellant were safely away from the fire. There's no property I have that's worth a fireman's life.

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:00 pm
by ELB
My department recently fought a large hay barn fire in which the barn also contained some living quarters and a CONEX type storage container. We were warned there was ammo in the Conex and we could hear it "tinking" against the wall. There was also the same "tink" sound in the living quarters, which had a closet that burned furiously. None of the rounds ever exited the building. We didn't try to enter either, no point, everyone was out.

Bums me out about that dog tho. What a shame.

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:36 pm
by CC Italian
WOW! 100,000 that's insane and my friends tell me I am crazy with 3-6k between all my calibers at any given time.

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:22 am
by Jumping Frog
CC Italian wrote:WOW! 100,000 that's insane and my friends tell me I am crazy with 3-6k between all my calibers at any given time.
When I read the amount, my reaction was, "That is a good start." :mrgreen:

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:19 pm
by axdslngr
Wow thats a bit of ammo. But for us who hold only a few hundred rounds at any given time, would a fireproof container prevent ammo cooking off? or is this just inevitable?

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:01 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Jumping Frog wrote:
CC Italian wrote:WOW! 100,000 that's insane and my friends tell me I am crazy with 3-6k between all my calibers at any given time.
When I read the amount, my reaction was, "That is a good start." :mrgreen:
I had a similar thought. I was thinking... "NOOB". Seriously... I have over 50K rounds of various calibers in my home. I also have smokeless powder...primers... and black powder. That drum in the garage with 30 plus gallons of 110 octane fuel would be icing on the cake. I would tell everyone to run. :mrgreen:

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:04 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
axdslngr wrote:Wow thats a bit of ammo. But for us who hold only a few hundred rounds at any given time, would a fireproof container prevent ammo cooking off? or is this just inevitable?
I considered that but then thought it might just make for a very large fragmentation bomb.

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:39 pm
by Heartland Patriot
The SAAMI website links to this video which seems to suggest that modern ammunition does NOT have a tendency to "cook off". Can anyone enlighten me as to the validity of this video? I have posted the Youtube link, that is where the SAAMI page links to...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtRhht7o ... r_embedded

Thanks.

Re: Firefighters dodging ammo

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:48 pm
by C-dub
OldCannon wrote:
i8godzilla wrote:I could not make the link you provided work.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Firefigh ... 24308.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I believe this is the same story you referenced.
That link wasn't so good either. I'm running Chrome and all I got was an advertisement window I couldn't dismiss. Reloading the page, fortunately, made the ad disappear.

It's always sad to see stories like this. I hope that guy had insurance.
I also use Chrome and it worked for me. I wonder how many of the guns were lost.