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I'd like to update my previous posting regarding the above at:

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... ght=#45880

Recently I bought a new .22LR pistol and decided to take this Ciener kit to the range as well since I'm trying out different .22LR ammos.

I went to the range 4 times in the last week, and each trip I put 200 rounds thru it. I clean the pistol between the trips. I have not shot this pistol since the above post until these recent range trips.

On the first trip I was getting pretty high failure counts, but it was lower than 30%, feels like 10%. On the second trip I had very few failures. On the 3rd and 4th trips I had just 1 or 2 per trip.

Judging from the emptiness of the ammo case, I think my Ciener just needed to be broken in with 600 rounds (normally I break in a new pistol with 200 rounds). So it is very reliable now (as far as .22LR pistols go).

Since I was at the range testing out my new gun, I didn't pay too much attention to the Ciener in terms of accuracy. However, I did feed it a few different brands of .22LR ammo that I had left over and saved its last targets. Supprisingly, this Ciener kit did well with the cheap Aguila ammo (I can post a picture if anyone's interested).

Oh, BTW, my original offer still stands. If you are considering a Ciener kit and in Austin, I can let you try mine. I don't hate it anymore.

Glad the Ceiner is working out for you.

The one I had for years for G17 misfired (when it would feed) at least 10% of the time waaaaaaaay after "break-in" period (with all brands of ammo) and the guy on phone at factory tried to convince me such % of misfires was "normal".

It was such a royal pain when trying to use with beginners, I gave it away to a glock armorer. Another one had kept it for a while said it was a "masterpiece of engineering to be such a piece of junk, that even the Big Guy in The Sky could not fix it!".

If I ever get another one, it will be by Advantage Arms.

Well, there's always someone to post the complete opposite results about a particular product in question...in this case it is I.

My Ciener .22 conersion kit has worked flawlessly right out of the box...no break-in period required. Same for my friend's Ciener.

He uses his on his Kimber (BTW, I believe Ciener makes the Kimber .22 conversion kits) and I on my Colt Series 80 stainless-steel Government model. Accuracy seems just fine.

So no complaints from us re: Ciener re: functioning or accuracy!

Don't you just hate it when a product gets mixed reviews?

To buy it or not to buy it...

But that's true of about ANY product...personal experiences often disagree.

-- John D.

I have had my Ciener conversion on my Kimber for about three years and use it regularly. No problems at all.

Steve