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Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:00 pm
by SavageMythology
For any of you who are interested and live in the north DFW area, Rick Santorum will be holding a campaign rally in Plano tonight. I can't make it, but I'd love to hear about a good turnout. I've been a Santorum fan since there was a whole stage-full of candidates, and I think there are a lot more of us out there than are maybe willing to admit it at this point in the nomination process. My belief is that the average Republican is a little scared to deviate from the Romney/Gingrich match-up which the media is pushing, for fear that bringing more Santorum into the mix will only split the Gingrich vote to the point that we'll just end up with Romney by default. This was evidenced to me by my own grandparents, who voted in Florida for "who we think can win" rather than who they agree with the most on the issues. That's the exact mentality that got us McCain in '08, and I'd really hate to see that happen again...

After yesterday's results from CO, MN and MO, I think we're going to see more Santorum support start to turn up. The guy has a great 2nd amendment record (as has been discussed elsewhere in this forum), and since he's in Texas I'd be willing to bet that he might mention something about it tonight.

The rally starts at 7:00 and will be held here:
Fairview Farms
Corral Barn
3314 North Central Expressway #100
Plano, TX

I'm choosing to not be one of the conservatives who takes the "I'm not enthused about anyone in the field, so I'm going to highlight their faults and go with the lesser of three/four evils" approach to the whole thing. Pick the candidate with whom you agree the most, instead of the one with whom you disagree least, and support him! For me, that's Santorum.

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:05 pm
by Munk
I like Santorum, too. The wife and I may try to make this.

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:25 pm
by FuziDave
i'm going to try to go.

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:44 pm
by Kythas
I'd love to go but I'll be flying back home from the Great White North at that time.

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:47 pm
by O.F.Fascist
I'm going to support Paul in the primaries, but of the other three candidates, Santorum seems like the only one who is a decent person.

However I completely disagree with his anti-freedom beliefs.
“One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right.

They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues.

That is not how traditional conservatives view the world. There is no such society that I’m aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.”

- Rick Santorum
http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/01/ ... ty-on-air/

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:09 pm
by Dave2
Are political rallies like this "posted"?

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:59 pm
by speedsix
...the location is used for Larry Bartek's CHL course...so it couldn't very well be posted...good directions are also on Larry Bartek's web page http://www.handguninstructor.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ...a political rally is not prohibited to CHL holders if the premises are not posted 30.06...that's as accurate as I can be at this late hour....

Local Government Code § 229.001. Firearms; Explosives
(a) A municipality may not adopt regulations relating to the transfer, private ownership, keeping, transportation, licensing, or registration of firearms, ammunition, or firearm supplies.
(b) Subsection (a) does not affect the authority a municipality has under another law to:
(1) require residents or public employees to be armed for personal or national defense, law enforcement, or another lawful purpose;
(2) regulate the discharge of firearms within the limits of the municipality;
(3) regulate the use of property, the location of a business, or uses at a business under the municipality's fire code, zoning ordinance, or land-use regulations as long as the code, ordinance, or regulations are not used to circumvent the intent of Subsection (a) or Subdivision (5) of this subsection;
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(4) regulate the use of firearms in the case of an insurrection, riot, or natural disaster if the municipality finds the regulations necessary to protect public health and safety;
(5) regulate the storage or transportation of explosives to protect public health and safety, except that 25 pounds or less of black powder for each private residence and 50 pounds or less of black powder for each retail dealer are not subject to regulation; or
(6) regulate the carrying of a firearm by a person other than a person licensed to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, at a:
(A) public park;
(B) public meeting of a municipality, county, or other governmental body;
(C) political rally, parade, or official political meeting; or
(D) non firearms-related school, college, or professional athletic event.
(c) The exception provided by Subsection (b)(6) does not apply if the firearm is in or is carried to or from an area designated for use in a lawful hunting, fishing, or other sporting event and the firearm is of the type commonly used in the activity.
Acts 1987, 70th Leg., ch. 149, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1987. Amended by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 229, § 7, eff. Sept. 1, 1995; Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 165, § 10.07, eff. Sept. 1, 1997.
Renumbered from § 215.001 by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1420, § 12.002(10), eff. Sept. 1, 2001.

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:39 pm
by FuziDave
i went. it was WAY packed. and standing room only outside. hard to hear with that big of a crowd (they could have wired outside speakers). he only talked for about 40 minutes, though it was billed for an hour and a half.

heard a lot of what is currently wrong with the USofA. but didn't hear what he was going to do to fix it. TONS of supporters so i guess it was more of a pep rally.

i went to be convinced. still on the fence.

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:38 pm
by Dave2
I was going to go, but ran into a plumbing issue which would've made me late and I just didn't really feel like it anyway. Sounds like I didn't miss much.

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:48 am
by speedsix
...wife and friend went...stood on a bench outside to see in but couldn't hear much...her main comment was how respectful and well-behaved the crowd was..."There wasn't ONE jerk there"...that's a schoolteacher for you...thanks to SavageMythology for notifying us...wife was glad to find out and go... :thumbs2:

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:59 am
by FuziDave
on the way out passed 5 Ron Paul supporters. some weird badly painted signs about 'bigotry'. i couldn't figure out what they were trying to say. didnt care much either....neither did anyone else. everyone just walked on by, ignoring them.

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:27 am
by SavageMythology
My thanks to those of you who went, even if for no other reason than to check the guy out. I absolutely respect being "on the fence" or supporting another candidate, as long as it's a principled, reasonable stance.

I know speedsix didn't think there would be any issue with CC at a political rally, but did any of you who actually went see any signs prohibiting CC? I'd like to go to some future events and would just like to know what to expect as far as that's concerned.

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:13 pm
by speedsix
...the law I cited allows cities to regulate political meetings and rallies against firearms EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE CHLs....so unless the building's posted...or it's an election place on election day...you're good to carry CHL...

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:45 pm
by FuziDave
SavageMythology wrote: but did any of you who actually went see any signs prohibiting CC?
it was a strange venue. it was a barn of sorts, like a big banquet hall. there's side doors, like garage doors, that open up to an outside area of picnic tables.

when i got there the barn part was full, couldn't even get up to the door, so i couldn't see if it was posted. i was in the mass in the open area. didn't see any signs (permanent or temporary) anywhere.

Re: Santorum in Plano tonight

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:45 pm
by Lupine
I took my daughter, was a great learning experience for her. No signs were posted, no scanning, lite security.
We stood front and center about 7 ppl back from stage. Maylle Thomas band opened (great McKinney area group, have a couple of their rock/gospel albums). Santorum was very charismatic, he hit on some of his key points, but as he said "I know I'm preachin to the choir". Really was a pep rally to get people out to spread the word and to gather donations.