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"Dispatch tape of home invasion released

Jan 11, 2007 03:27 PM CST

CORPUS CHRISTI - Police have just released the frantic 911 call a mother made last October after her 14-year old son shot and killed a man, who broke into their Ocean Drive home.

The scene was packed with law enforcement after the incident in which 57-year-old James Slaughter, who was armed with a knife, got inside the house.

Rose Ann Kozlowski was out and her son was home alone. Slaughter waited until Kozlowski arrived and tied the two up.

Police said slaughter tied both of them up twice, and when they broke free the second time, the mother got to the phone, while her son found their gun.

"My son shot him, he tried to come in," Kozlowski said to the dispatcher.

"What do you mean your son shot?" the dispatcher asked.

"This man has raided our house ma'am. He came in with a knife. Hurry up. 4221 Ocean Drive," Kozlowski said.

"Ma'am, calm down. Was he shot?" dispatch asked.

"Yes, my son shot him," she said.

Police said they believe Slaughter got in through the garage. A grand jury ruled that the shooting was in self defense. "

I'm glad the woman and her son were okay. (Although they're both going to be dealing with this for awhile.)
I wasn't there and don't have all the info, but it looks like they may have waited too long to shoot the guy if he tied them up TWICE.

I have a fear of having my hands tied that probably borders on phobic. I firmly believe that once my ability to use my hands has been removed the next step of the bad guy will be to kill me at his/her leisure. I have resolved to never willingly allow my hands to be restrained. Of course I can be overpowered and subdued, but that’s what its going to take. You see, I feel I have nothing to lose by fighting back at that moment no mater what the odds are…

That brings up a question, how many of you practice close contact and weapons retention drills?

When I was in the military I didn’t practice as much as I should have, but since most engagements were at 15 yards or greater, it wasn’t that big a deal. But later when I went into security service, they became very important since the engagement range was considerably closer.

But as a CHL, I feel the engagement range has the potential to be even closer since I am constrained by law to use my weapon for defense only, offense is not allowed. That means the BG probably gets the first move if it comes to guns or contact weapons. Grappling, weapons retention, and contact range shooting, in my opinion are critical skills for CHL holders. I’m curious if others on the forum feel the same way…

I do practice shooting from retention. It is a good skill to have. But it has to be practiced carefully. I tend to practice retention shooting with my airsoft gun more than a real gun, as that kind of practice can chew up a lot of ammo in a hurry and the airsoft gun is safer to practice with.

Airsoft is a good way to go, safer and cheaper. I have a G19 that I use, and it's amazingly similar to my real G19 (at least good enough for practice). Also, you can do it with a partner so it's actually better then training then using live ammo.

But I still practice some with live ammo also.

When you listen to the 911 call, think about all the legal advice that says to keep quiet until you talk to your lawyer. The son was a bit more cautious, but the mom just kept going... I really don't mean to judge, I just find it very interesting to consider.

As for shooting from retention, you may want to check out the video from SouthNarc at Shivworks, titled "Fighting Handgun Volume I". It is in the KISS school of thought, and starts with the premise that shooting may very well be up close and personal.
http://www.shivworks.com/products.asp

Listening to the first of the two calls, the incoming 911 rather than the return call, it sounds as though the call gets terminated just as there is a loud noise in the background.

Makes me wonder if the reason the call was terminated was the shot by the son, certainly the short time lag between the incoming call and the successful connect on the return call was pretty short, and the mother's tenor changed between calls, plus the change in refferant (from present tense to past tense) makes me tend to believe it.

Training with airsoft, huh? Hmmm. So a good thread is not hijacked, somebody please PM me and tell me about your airsoft training.

JLaw

In the head!!! Nice shot! That definitely ended that home invasion.
A couple points here:
1) Way to keep your cool kid. The Operator would have had quite a time just dealing with the hysterics of the mother.
2) +1 on shot placement in such an intense situation.
3) The operator should have instructed them to put the gun down before confronting the officer.
4) Get her some Prozac and give him a medal.

I just now had time to listen to the recording and watch the news story. A very fortunate outcome.

I agree with VP that both mother and son will be dealing with this for a long time. It also seems clear their security system and preparedness wasn't what it should have been, but at least they weren't afraid to have a gun in the house, and it seems obvious the boy had fired it before. We don't know whether the headshot under stress was intentional or not, or whether two were in very close proximity when the shot(s) was fired.

An upscale house with a gated driveway. I suspect Slaughter, irrespective of his name, was there only to steal. Otherwise, the family may not have had a second (or third) chance.

+1 to kauboy. And as traumatic as the experience was on young Kozlowski, I'll wager that this kid grows up to be a level-headed Sheep Dog...

I think i woulda told the kid to keep the weapon in hand and pointed in a safe direction until the police arrived.

Just in case there may be other BG's around you now. THen told him to put it down with the police arrived.

But im no dispatcher, im sure they have SOP's to follow.