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Which would be perfer more, and can someone help tell comparison? I plan on adding sigths and a grip real soon after purchase.

x007x wrote:Which would be perfer more, and can someone help tell comparison? I plan on adding sigths and a grip real soon after purchase.

Depends on what you're going to be doing with it.

I'm not the AR guy around here, but here is what they will want to know to help answer your question more accurately:

Primary use of gun? Plinking, home defense, carbine competitions, trunk gun, etc..........

x007x wrote:Which would be perfer more, and can someone help tell comparison? I plan on adding sigths and a grip real soon after purchase.

The PSX is a gas piston gun. The X is Direct Impingement, and has a pinned A2 front sight base at the gas block. If you're not going to be running full auto, suppressed, or thousands of rounds, than a piston gun falls into the "nice to have" or "cool" category. I have used both, and find slightly more felt recoil, bulk, and barrel-end weight using a piston system. The difference is slight though.

The X will come with BUIS (iron sights) which can save you money later. $120 increase in price is a fair deal for a piston gun though.

Piston guns run cleaner and cooler in my experience, as the gas and debris do not get routed back into the BCG. Keep in mind though, there are not standardized piston parts and bolt carrier groups, pistons, and gas keys will vary among manufacturers. S&W seems fine, I went with LMT.

All that said, I am currently shopping for a lightweight mid length upper. I am looking at BCM and DD. Street price on my PSX seems to hanging just under $1200. For that coin, I think a complete mid length rifle can be had with sights from a reputable maker.

The X comes with a sight tower gasblock and a flip up rear sight. I'ts good to go right out of the box. The PSX has no sights and a picitinny block on the gas block so it's pretty much useless without either sights or an optic. Back up sights are a good thing I would suggest the X or the MOE unless you are planning on optics only. I have an MOE and love it the stock and grip are a lot more user friendly than the standard stock and grip. Either rifle will do you an excellent job.

My 2 cents, for what it's worth. I cannot comment on the S&W's directly - never owned one. But, as a general rule, I'm not going to bother with piston guns until somebody standardizes the design. Otherwise, you could wind up with an expensive paperweight when no parts can be found. I have two M4 type AR's that have over $2500 in each one. They are heavy and I worry about banging them up. The last few guns I built were light weight ultra-simple, iron sight ones that I purposely held the total cost below $1K. One came in less than $700. They all shoot about the same - uber expensive and low priced KISS guns. Excepting optics, of course.

So the real issue, as already mentioned, is what do you really want out of the rifle? I think simplicity has a beauty all it's own and in this day of over tricked out AR's, a simple, functional gun allows more money for ammo and practice, which is always a bonus. I know this isn't much help for you, but good luck with your decision.

Thanks for the responses.. I am gong to use it for the range, home defemse, and I own property. So I will be getting sights, silencers, and i'll be shooting thousands of rounds.

On the Psx I have seen it with and without foldable iron sights.. Is that stock to come with it or was that an attachment? So, if i'm really just going to be shooting it for range use; I should I stick with getting Psx or X?

x007x wrote:Thanks for the responses.. I am gong to use it for the range, home defemse, and I own property. So I will be getting sights, silencers, and i'll be shooting thousands of rounds.

Then buy a Noveske. Or the PSX

x007x wrote:On the Psx I have seen it with and without foldable iron sights.. Is that stock to come with it or was that an attachment? So, if i'm really just going to be shooting it for range use; I should I stick with getting Psx or X?

Then buy an Oly Arms. Or...the X.

Is ther re anything particular on the PSX I need to know?

It seems like a lot of people don't like the piston system.. What is bad with the pistons?

x007x wrote:It seems like a lot of people don't like the piston system.. What is bad with the pistons?

Asked and answered.

PeteCamp wrote:My 2 cents, for what it's worth. I cannot comment on the S&W's directly - never owned one. But, as a general rule, I'm not going to bother with piston guns until somebody standardizes the design. Otherwise, you could wind up with an expensive paperweight when no parts can be found. I have two M4 type AR's that have over $2500 in each one. They are heavy and I worry about banging them up. The last few guns I built were light weight ultra-simple, iron sight ones that I purposely held the total cost below $1K. One came in less than $700. They all shoot about the same - uber expensive and low priced KISS guns. Excepting optics, of course.

So the real issue, as already mentioned, is what do you really want out of the rifle? I think simplicity has a beauty all it's own and in this day of over tricked out AR's, a simple, functional gun allows more money for ammo and practice, which is always a bonus. I know this isn't much help for you, but good luck with your decision.