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In January of 2011 I was arrested for a bull drug charge. I hired an attorney. To make a long story short, the possession charge was dropped to a paraphernalia charge. I received a 3-month non-adjudication of guilt verdict, which has since expired. However, it was time for me to renew my license. I took the class, submitted the fee and the State responded to me stating they need all of the court documents from this arrest and outcome.

Before I bother going down to the courthouse to obtain this information to send to the State I was wondering if anyone on this site knew if the State will still deny my request for renewal based on the guilty plea of drug paraphernalia. I appreciate your informed and educated responses!

What class of misdemeanor was it?
A, B, C?

Also, if you have already done your renewal class, and paid for your new application to the State, paying another $10 or $20 (probably) to get the documents to get the DPS answer, rather than speculation here may be worth it.

But if it is a Class C you should be OK, if an A or B, you may have to wait a while for a certain period of time (maybe 5 years) to elapse.

Well, a paraphernalia ticket is a Class C. It's not a case of the $10 or $20 for the files. I just do not have the time to spend a day at the courthouse if it's only going to be a waste of time. You know what I mean? I appreciate the info!

what's a bull drug charge?

I typed in an acronym and it placed bull there.

I'm guessing he didn't do drugs, but was in the "possession" of someone else's paraphernalia that had residue which was why the charge was originally for drugs, but the attorney got it just knocked down to possession of paraphernalia?

MaxInDFW wrote:I typed in bull and it placed bull there.

So you're saying that there was four more letters at the end of that word? The forum has a filter. In the forum rules in red at the top it states:

This is a "G" rated "family" forum, so please keep this in mind when choosing the subject matter of your post, as well as the language you choose.

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I think he meant he typed a "s" after a "b"

Wow, you guys are geniuses! Thanks for all of the outstanding informative advice! lol

Easy does it. You received some very good information/advice based on what you told us.

1st - information - Class C shouldn't be a big deal. A or B you might have made a $140 donation to the State.

2nd - advice - Violations of forum rules can lead to a short membership. That's why the filter is in place. Don't be too hasty in chastising the membership, that can also lead to an early membership demise. If you will note, a legitimate question as to what was a "bull drug charge" was made. Unfortunately not all of us know all the terminology of the drug or legal world so we have no idea what a bull drug charge is. Your response and a couple of others were made at approximately the same time so they were trying to work it out while you were explaining why the filter caught you.

Mind your P's and Q's and someone will be by with more information or you can clarify the previous question as to what degree was the charge.

3rd - my own piece of advice - stay away from drugs, paralhernalia, and those associated with it...especially if you are a CHL holder...and this will not be a problem.

And, if you stay around long enough, you will find there are a lot of geniuses on the board. Very wise men and women that are more than happy to help if you'll give them the chance.

MaxInDFW wrote:Well, a paraphernalia ticket is a Class C. It's not a case of the $10 or $20 for the files. I just do not have the time to spend a day at the courthouse if it's only going to be a waste of time. You know what I mean? I appreciate the info!

Its your choice to spend all day

if it is a Class C as you state, then you are not disqualified.
Its totally up to you if your 2nd amendment rights are worth a day at the courthouse.

And as far as this comment:

MaxInDFW wrote:Wow, you guys are geniuses! Thanks for all of the outstanding informative advice! lol

Kind of rude don't ya think, as the very first response you got was the right response, and gave you the information you desired.

Why not stick around, learn something and understand why others made the various comments they did (because the first answer was right, why would they give any other advice?)
And yes, we do like our forum, we respect the forum and the members on it, including yourself as a member, please respect us back by following the rules set forth and yes, sometimes you have to take the comments like "whats a bull drug charge?", or the other comments. They are, in my mind, simply there, as we all take (or should take) responsibility for our actions, and in your comment that it was a "bull drug charge", is not taking responsibility, its like saying "but officer, I was only going 56 in a 55. Well, it is still speeding, and if I got a ticket for 1 mph over, I would own it.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do

troglodyte wrote:Easy does it. You received some very good information/advice based on what you told us

Trog, GMTA! (you beat me by a minute or so)

Just make a phone call and ask the DPS about it. If there is a record they will find it anyway
The worst that they can do is tell you that you will not be able to get your renewal.
If they say no then you will have to wait or get a lawyer to get it cleared up.

Max - you have the advice above on your issue. Here is a little grandfather advice based on stuff and life experiences that you have no idea about. If you are that close to drug culture - you need a lifestyle change and new friends! Best of luck with your problem and welcome to the forum.

I AM NOT related to him!



Maxwell (in Houston)

Sorry Max, I couldn't resist. Welcome to the forum and yes, change friends. If you had been carrying when you got that charge it would have been a lot worse than a Class C...