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Ever since I have taken my Texas CHL course, I am on the lookout for the 30.06 signs, who is carrying, ect.

Today as I was walking into a Target, the Brinks Armored truck was outfront and two guys were walking out with bags of cash.

They also had two pistols open-carried?

How are they allowed to do that?

Occupational Code§ 1702.169. FIREARM RESTRICTIONS. A commissioned
security officer may not carry a firearm unless:
(1) the security officer is:
(A) engaged in the performance of duties as a security officer; or
(B) traveling directly to or from the place of assignment;
(2) the security officer wears a distinctive uniform
indicating that the individual is a security officer; and
(3) the firearm is in plain view, except as provided by Section 1702.206.

Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 388, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1999.


OC § 1702.170. NONAPPLICABILITY OF FIREARM
RESTRICTIONS. Sections 1702.161, 1702.169, and 1702.206 do not
apply to the holder of a temporary security officer commission who:
(1) is in uniform;
(2) possesses only one firearm; and
(3) is performing the individual's duties.



Penal Code §46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS.


PC §46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY.
(6)(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:

(5) holds a security officer commission issued by the Texas Board
of Private Investigators and Private Security Agencies, if:
(A) the person is engaged in the performance of the person's
duties as a security officer or traveling to and from the person's place
of assignment;
(B) the person is wearing a distinctive uniform; and
(C) the weapon is in plain view;

HEMIzygote wrote:Ever since I have taken my Texas CHL course, I am on the lookout for the 30.06 signs, who is carrying, ect.

Today as I was walking into a Target, the Brinks Armored truck was outfront and two guys were walking out with bags of cash.

They also had two pistols open-carried?

How are they allowed to do that?

As Lucky pointed out, yes they are. They must be commissioned security officers and the gun MUST be in plain view. They must also have the commission card on their person.

Thanks for the replies!

I knew they were allowed and think they should open carry. It protects them more.

I was just curious as to what the law was for them, and now I know.

Thanks again!

And for some reason they are only allowed to carry revolvers...

9mmGuy wrote:And for some reason they are only allowed to carry revolvers...

tell that to the mall ninja.

A former tenant of my rent house recently returned to load more of the stuff he had left behind. When I showed up, he and his wife were packing crap into their van.
The husband is a security guard at the Dallas federal Building. He was off-duty, but in uniform and packing.

Of course, at this point, I'm confronting them and ordering them to leave. I was also carrying, but he did not know that. Thankfully they did leave immediately.

But I've wondered if it was legal for him to be carrying when off-duty and not in direct transit to ro from work.

9mmGuy wrote:And for some reason they are only allowed to carry revolvers...

They who?

Specific companies can have policies, but state law is similar to CHL. If the guard qualifies with a semi-auto, he can carry either a semi or revolver. If he qualifies with a revolver, a revolver is all he can carry.

In addition, guards have less rights than you. If a guard wants to carry or have a shotgun accessible, he must also qualify with a shotgun and have the STG designation on his commission card.

Rex B wrote:A former tenant of my rent house recently returned to load more of the stuff he had left behind. When I showed up, he and his wife were packing crap into their van.
The husband is a security guard at the Dallas federal Building. He was off-duty, but in uniform and packing.

Of course, at this point, I'm confronting them and ordering them to leave. I was also carrying, but he did not know that. Thankfully they did leave immediately.

But I've wondered if it was legal for him to be carrying when off-duty and not in direct transit to ro from work.

He can only carry while traveling DIRECTLY to or from his place of assignment. Stopping at his old house to load furniture would get him a UCW charge if the PD or a DPS investigator discovered him.

This is a BIG thrust of DPS and some police departments.

I call 911 when they at first resisted, and a cop came out after they left. Said it was a civil matter. But I did not mention that the guy was carrying.

I doubt I'll run across this individual again, but it's good to know what rules those guys play under.

txinvestigator wrote:

9mmGuy wrote:And for some reason they are only allowed to carry revolvers...

They who?

I believe he was joking, since thats typically what you see them carrying.

...because they are idiot-proof?

Back to the "revolvers only" question: I believe some states do restrict security guards and money couriers to .38 Special revolvers; nothing else allowed.

I don't remember which states, but it was discussed recently on PDO, and someone in one of those states cited the law.

Kevin