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ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:54 pm
by pmcdn
Since when did the ATF get to decide what guns we should/shouldn't have?
http://www.ijreview.com/2012/05/6611-at ... #f9f1ba484" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:02 pm
by pbwalker
Ummm...I think that's pretty much been their MO from the beginning
Didn't something like this come up a year or so ago, inflating the Saiga prices?
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:03 pm
by JCole
Since the 1968 Gun Control Act?
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:46 pm
by 74novaman
pbwalker wrote:
Ummm...I think that's pretty much been their MO from the beginning
Didn't something like this come up a year or so ago, inflating the Saiga prices?
Yes.
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:52 pm
by Mike1951
I found the ATF document, but the deadline for comment was May 1,
2011.
http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearm ... otguns.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So by now, there should have been something announced.
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 6:00 pm
by AEA
They probably had to change their focus to covering up for F&F and the "Idiot in Chief" so they are too busy to fool with this nonsense for now.
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 6:10 pm
by speedsix
...they began this initiative in Jan 2011 (again)...it being bandied about now seems to be for sure a smokescreen...
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:11 pm
by Jumping Frog
The NRA took care of squashing this. It was one of 12 points the NRA got passed and signed into law last fall.
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/feder ... gun-owners" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:29 pm
by pbwalker
TxLobo wrote:
But I've seen this pop up on so many sites in the past couple of weeks.. each one has a different 2012 date on it.. ?
It's all cyclical...just wait. Give it a couple of weeks and *someone* will post that USAToday poll from 2007.
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:58 pm
by RPB
Best of my knowledge, Virginia Govt in 1857 started working on the "Hunting/Sporting use" justification/requirement..Gun Control people used it BATF adopted it later and in 1968 they went bonkers...
and Americans let them viewtopic.php?f=94&t=55447#p678444" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:01 pm
by jimlongley
And since SCOTUS found that there were no military style shotguns in the first place . . .
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 3:08 am
by Beiruty
jimlongley wrote:And since SCOTUS found that there were no military style shotguns in the first place . . .
I am safe, I own a Siaga12, I am grandfathered with this one.
Re: ATF wants to ban military style shotguns
Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 8:37 am
by Iunnrais
Wonder if these old soldiers would be lumped in with the evil military style shotguns...
Germans sure didn't like them in WWI (to the point of raising a formal complaint) and the US Army liked em enough to keep em around for several more conflicts.
(and no, I only wish the pair were mine. I'll end up with a 520 eventually that is my Dads, but I'm in no hurry to get it from him.)