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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:46 pm
by bburgi
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:15 pm
by casselthief
for me, I always keep my smoke wagons IN the holster, even at home.
I put them in my waistband at the same time, but that's just how I roll.
I understand full and well everyone has their own routines, but I find it easier to not forget one whilst remembering the other if I always keep'em together.
glad you didn't have to unsheath your heater, btw.







this outta be in the Never Again area, but I'm sure it'll be okay.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:32 pm
by TxFire
I use the C-Tac for my Glock 23. My habit is to also keep the gun and holster together and insert as one into the waistband. It is not to prevent forgetting th gun, I do that so as to not chance catching something in the trigger guard and causing a Negligent Discharge into my buttock/thigh. :shock:

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:29 pm
by casselthief
TxFire wrote:I do that so as to not chance catching something in the trigger guard and causing a Negligent Discharge into my buttock/thigh.
I agree, there, too. I carry a S&W Sigma, which is basically a Glock wannabe. same with mah wheel-gun, don't wanna catch that thar trigger on sumpin' it ain't spoda be caught on!

c-tac

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:29 pm
by fiftycal
I don't recognize the C-TAC reference. Is this a holster?

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:33 pm
by TxFire
Yes the C-Tac is an inside the waist band Kydex holster made by Comp Tac. It can be seen on their websitehttp://www.comp-tac.com/

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:40 am
by Mike1951
I'm still experimenting with carrying two Hi-Powers in a dual holster rig.

I was five miles toward Beaumont Friday, on my way to get the Sistema, when I realized I hadn't checked the Hi-Powers. I felt for the mags, and sure enough, one side was empty.

I took the next exit on I-10 and pulled off on the shoulder. Opened my dry box which had more gun stuff in it and found an empty mag. I popped 10 hollowpoints out of an FNP-40 mag, loaded the Hi-Power mag, put one in the chamber and I was back on the road.

Re: Always pay attentions... before you leave the house!

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:59 am
by PatrickS
It's stories like these, and similar about e.g. forgetting to
chamber a round in one's SA and thinking one is carrying
C&L but not, that I find renewed comfort in my choice of
carry -- a DAO .357 Ruger SP101 with clipdraw and tritium
night sight.

Stick it in your belt, and it's ready.
Draw, pull, bang, when unavoidable.

Except for bizarre cases such as dropping it in the
sand, etc. it's as reliable as they get.

Pretty much the only real goof you can make is
to forget to load it, but a quick glance makes that easy
enough to check.

Simplicity, reliability, and effectiveness in a comfortably
compact "built like a tank" package.

(not intending to spark any kind of debate about SA vs.
wheelgun, just "thinking out loud" so to speak ;-)

Cheers,

Patrick

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:32 am
by txinvestigator
Before leaving house

1) Select holster (depends on dress and purpose)
2) Place holster on me
3) Retrieve handgun
4) Press check, check mag
5) Insert handgun in holster


End of day
1) Remove handgun from holster
2) Wipe down with Silicone gun and reel cloth
3) store handgun
4) Store holster


Weekly
If I have not shot the gun that week
1) Remove magazine
2) Lock slide to rear, retrieve bullet.
3) Secure all ammo
4) Check the chamber visually
5) check again
6) Lower slide
7) Place a pencil with eraser in barrel, eraser first
8) Press trigger (if pencil jumps out the firing pin is fine, if not UUHH OHHH)
9) With thumb safety on and grip safety depressed, press trigger
10) With thumb safety OFF and grip safety NOT depressed, press trigger.
11) Inspect for smoothness of operation
12) If all is well, insert magazine, chamber round.
13) Press check
14) Top off magazine
15) Secure handgun


I did #10 with a new handgun once in the shop. It went "click". :shock: Back to manufacturer. :grin:

Re: Always pay attentions... before you leave the house!

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:19 am
by casselthief
patrickstickler wrote:It's stories like these, and similar about e.g. forgetting to
chamber a round in one's SA and thinking one is carrying
C&L but not, that I find renewed comfort in my choice of
carry
been working for Ruger long?

anyway, you have to check things, no matter what you carry. it's life.
TXI, nice routine.

Re: Always pay attentions... before you leave the house!

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:37 am
by PatrickS
casselthief wrote:
patrickstickler wrote:It's stories like these, and similar about e.g. forgetting to
chamber a round in one's SA and thinking one is carrying
C&L but not, that I find renewed comfort in my choice of
carry
been working for Ruger long?
Gee... nice to know that folks honest opinions and
input are so welcome, and that sincerity is valued.
casselthief wrote: anyway, you have to check things, no matter what you carry. it's life.
TXI, nice routine.
True. Though IMO CCW is all about "risk management" and
simplification is a very powerful tool in any form of risk
management. Yes, the above is a great checklist. My checklist
is alot shorter.

Cheers,

Patrick

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:52 am
by casselthief
humor, my friend, humor.

I have a wheel gun, too. I like it a lot. I agree, being able to see the cartridges in the cylinder is great.

my point was, if you forget your gun (as in the initial post), then it simply pays no heed to which type of firearm you have.


:cheers2:

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:00 pm
by PatrickS
casselthief wrote:humor, my friend, humor.

I have a wheel gun, too. I like it a lot. I agree, being able to see the cartridges in the cylinder is great.

my point was, if you forget your gun (as in the initial post), then it simply pays no heed to which type of firearm you have.


:cheers2:

Quite. ;-)

Re: Always pay attentions... before you leave the house!

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:09 pm
by txinvestigator
patrickstickler wrote:
casselthief wrote: anyway, you have to check things, no matter what you carry. it's life.
TXI, nice routine.
True. Though IMO CCW is all about "risk management" and
simplification is a very powerful tool in any form of risk
management. Yes, the above is a great checklist. My checklist
is alot shorter.

Cheers,

Patrick
I carried a revolver for MANY years. Too many people think revolvers are too foolproof and fail to take the proper precautions and make adaquete checks. I am not implying that YOU don't, just making a statement.

On revolvers, ejection rods can become bent and loose. Both can "jam it up". Revolvers can get jammed up from defective or damaged or clogged up cylinder rotating mechanism. They are subject to loose cylinder release mechanisms.

Revolvers are inherently more difficult to shoot well under stress. (risk management) ;-)

Here was my routine for when I carried a revolver;

Before leaving house

1) Select holster (depends on dress and purpose)
2) Place holster on me
3) Retrieve handgun
4) open cylinder to check for function and ammo
5) Insert handgun in holster


End of day
1) Remove handgun from holster
2) Wipe down with Silicone gun and reel cloth
3) store handgun
4) Store holster


Weekly
If I have not shot the gun that week
1) open cylinder
2) eject ammo
3) Secure all ammo
4) Check the chamber visually
5) check again
6) close cylinder and cock hammer
7) Place a pencil with eraser in barrel, eraser first
8) Press trigger (if pencil jumps out the firing pin is fine, if not UUHH OHHH)
9) cock hammer and with finger off trigger, press on back of hammer to insure the hammer will not "push off"
10) cock hammer, place pencil in barrel, then tap trigger with a pen, screwdriver, etc. make sure pencil does not jump from barrel (insures firing pin block is working).
11) Inspect for smoothness of operation
12) Inspect for proper cylinder lock up and alignment
13) if all is well, reload
14) close cylinder
15) Secure handgun



Humm, same number of steps.


That said, I would not hesitate to carry a revolver today. I love my S&W model 10 M&P bull barrel.

I am actually in the market for a S&W .41.]


Edit; Just a story; At the last CHL instructor renewal school, I was "shot" by the revolver of the person to my left. The cylinder was out of time and the gun was shaving lead. I caught a piece in my left arm enough to bleed pretty good, requiring a cease fire while I was bandaged up. :shock:

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:14 pm
by txinvestigator
casselthief wrote:humor, my friend, humor.
The thief's dry humor strikes again! :crazy: