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The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:06 pm
by Chemist45
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At least it is for the Marines.
"Colt Defense LLC said Friday it has been awarded a $22.5 million, five-year contract to provide the
U.S. Marine Corps with the latest .45 caliber pistols that were originally provided to the military in 1911."
Confirmation from Colts's Website:
http://www.colt.com/ColtMilitary/News/t ... tract.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"The initial Delivery Order on the contract is for 4036 CQBP, plus spares. Deliveries will begin later this year."
Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:18 pm
by Heartland Patriot
My hat is off to Mr. Browning...Model 1911, back in the fight!

Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:25 pm
by AEA
They should have never been taken away!
Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:31 pm
by McKnife
$1900 per pistol?
I realize it includes extras and transportation, but my goodness!!!
Rip off.
Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:54 pm
by Heartland Patriot
McKnife wrote:$1900 per pistol?
I realize it includes extras and transportation, but my goodness!!!
Rip off.
That might also include a warranty maintenance type program...spare parts, etc. If not, then yeah, kind of pricey...
Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:03 pm
by mojo84
The price is always much higher when it's the government buying. What's the big deal? It's just taxpayer money.
Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:46 pm
by donkey
The 1911 never fully left USMC service. The MEU(SOC) pistol and ICQB pistols were both 1911s and were issued to Force Recon and MARSOC units. These new Colts will replace the old pistols and will be issued to MARSOC and Force Recon units and apparently some SRTs. Everyone else will continue to use the M9.
Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:29 am
by Oldgringo
mojo84 wrote:The price is always much higher when it's the government buying. What's the big deal? It's just taxpayer money.
It's the administrative costs of dealing with the government that drives the prices up, you think?
Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:32 am
by WildBill
Oldgringo wrote:mojo84 wrote:The price is always much higher when it's the government buying. What's the big deal? It's just taxpayer money.
It's the administrative costs of dealing with the government that drives the prices up, you think?
That is part of it. The guns will meet military specs and won't have to go through a 1000 round break-in to be reliable.
Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:57 pm
by txbirddog
Our Marines get leftovers from the other branches, so if they want this for MARSOC,,,,,I say fine. Many won't say crap for other gov't expenditures, yet when it comes to the Military, cuts and cost scrimping are ALWAYS ok with many.
Semper Fi

Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:06 pm
by TLE2
It's the administrative costs of dealing with the government that drives the prices up, you think?
Having dealt with government buying before (in a former life) it is all about the admin costs.
Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:24 pm
by packina45
mojo84 wrote:The price is always much higher when it's the government buying. What's the big deal? It's just taxpayer money.
Something has to pay for the "black" projects. Appearing to pay more than they actually do for an item provides a source of untracked money that can do things like design the F-117 Nighthawk.
Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:26 pm
by packina45
donkey wrote:The 1911 never fully left USMC service. The MEU(SOC) pistol and ICQB pistols were both 1911s and were issued to Force Recon and MARSOC units. These new Colts will replace the old pistols and will be issued to MARSOC and Force Recon units and apparently some SRTs. Everyone else will continue to use the M9.
A lot of SpecOps types never fully left the 1911 behind. After discovering that 9mm just didn't have the punch, they went back.
Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:05 pm
by karder
Just the way it should be.

Re: The 1911 is back in the US military
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:38 pm
by DocV
McKnife wrote:$1900 per pistol?
I realize it includes extras and transportation, but my goodness!!!
Rip off.
That price is not much more than what I am considering paying the custom shop for an off-the-line 1911 in Royal Blue.
Colt is single-source for the Marine's 1911. The price probably includes administrative costs, testing costs, costs for spares, manufacturing incentives,
etc.