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Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:03 am
by A-R
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... your-guns/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:01 am
by RoyGBiv
I need to get an NRA hat... I wish they made one that had ANY modern styling.
Every NRA hat I've ever seen fits me like it came off the $2.99 rack at the bait shop near the lake.

Like this one... Great looking graphics, but look at how high that hat is.. :roll:
http://www.nrastore.com/nrastore/Produc ... 24172&ct=e" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:15 am
by AEA
When these reporters are talking to these idiot Dems and they spew their spiel on "reasonable restrictions" & "common sense laws" and "AWB", why does the reporter NOT ask them what is it they don't understand about the words "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"? :banghead:

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:24 am
by EconDoc
AEA wrote:When these reporters are talking to these idiot Dems and they spew their spiel on "reasonable restrictions" & "common sense laws" and "AWB", why does the reporter NOT ask them what is it they don't understand about the words "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"? :banghead:
They understand those words very well. Their problem is that, if they obey those words, they will not be able to turn free citizens into unarmed, defenseless peasants who can be ruled, exploited, and eliminated safely. Never kid your self. Talk about crime is pure smokescreen. It is really about power and people who believe that we have too much power over ourselves and they have too little power over us.

:patriot: :txflag:

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:28 am
by Beiruty
More Money for NRA.

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:54 am
by sjfcontrol
Jesse Jackson wrote:Twenty-five percent of all police are killed by assault weapons, and they cannot defend themselves from that.
Would that be 25% of all police each year? I had no idea the death rate was anywhere near that high! :evil2:

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:12 pm
by SRH78
EconDoc wrote:
AEA wrote:When these reporters are talking to these idiot Dems and they spew their spiel on "reasonable restrictions" & "common sense laws" and "AWB", why does the reporter NOT ask them what is it they don't understand about the words "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"? :banghead:
They understand those words very well. Their problem is that, if they obey those words, they will not be able to turn free citizens into unarmed, defenseless peasants who can be ruled, exploited, and eliminated safely. Never kid your self. Talk about crime is pure smokescreen. It is really about power and people who believe that we have too much power over ourselves and they have too little power over us.

:patriot: :txflag:
:iagree: bingo

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:20 pm
by RPB
sjfcontrol wrote:
Jesse Jackson wrote:Twenty-five percent of all police are killed by assault weapons, and they cannot defend themselves from that.
Would that be 25% of all police each year? I had no idea the death rate was anywhere near that high! :evil2:
Perhaps if police didn't carry those assault weapons, they'd be less convenient/available and police wouldn't be killed by the assault weapons as often. Look at the 9 bystanders who got shot by police recently. More range time might help too.

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:22 pm
by RPB
sjfcontrol wrote:
Jesse Jackson wrote:Twenty-five percent of all police are killed by assault weapons, and they cannot defend themselves from that.
Would that be 25% of all police each year? I had no idea the death rate was anywhere near that high! :evil2:
Perhaps if police didn't carry those assault weapons, they'd be less convenient/available and police wouldn't be killed by the assault weapons as often. Disarm the Police like in New Zealand and you'd have less. Look at the 9 bystanders who got shot by police recently. More range time might help too.

NZ Police didn't used to wear guns, but several had near-death experiences as bad guys armed themselves.

Retention versus availability/access
:shock: :eek6 Video: Good discussion on should police leave the gun in the car or wear it on a belt like in the wild west, which is more risky for police
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=jN8fNklvtNI[/youtube]

Broad vows to give police greater gun access
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/union-w ... ip-3966827" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Public split on police gun issue
http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/ ... -gun-issue" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2004
http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/waitara29b.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Carrying guns in a holster on the hip is still not routine for New Zealand police officers - but don't ask to see what's under their armpits or in their car boots. Rachel Grunwell reports on the police officer's arsenal.

Senior frontline police carry as many as six firearms in the boots of their cars.
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=WKMo537wFhw[/youtube]

Why NZ Police shouldn't have guns
http://tumeke.blogspot.com/2012/04/why- ... -guns.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
panicked cops reaching for the trigger first without justification.
Deja Vu- the old "blood will run in the Streets" argument used by anti CHL. anti-campus carry, anti-gun brady groups ...

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:32 pm
by AEA
SRH78 wrote:
EconDoc wrote:
AEA wrote:When these reporters are talking to these idiot Dems and they spew their spiel on "reasonable restrictions" & "common sense laws" and "AWB", why does the reporter NOT ask them what is it they don't understand about the words "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"? :banghead:
They understand those words very well. Their problem is that, if they obey those words, they will not be able to turn free citizens into unarmed, defenseless peasants who can be ruled, exploited, and eliminated safely. Never kid your self. Talk about crime is pure smokescreen. It is really about power and people who believe that we have too much power over ourselves and they have too little power over us.

:patriot: :txflag:
:iagree: bingo
Yes, I get that. :thumbs2:

My point was why don't the Reporters throw that back into their face when they spout off their rhetoric? Force them to answer that question? :rules: :???:

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:37 pm
by E.Marquez
sjfcontrol wrote:
Jesse Jackson wrote:Twenty-five percent of all police are killed by assault weapons, and they cannot defend themselves from that.
Would that be 25% of all police each year? I had no idea the death rate was anywhere near that high! :evil2:
173 LEO deaths in 2011

67 of those by gun fire.. thats %38 but hold on,,, some of those are listed as acidental..
and
I checked 20 of those reports, NONE listed the weapon type as anything that can be considered as an "assault weapon"

Total Line of Duty Deaths: 173
9/11 related illness: 6
Aircraft accident: 1
Animal related: 1
Assault: 5
Automobile accident: 35
Drowned: 4
Duty related illness: 7
Explosion: 1
Gunfire: 67
Gunfire (Accidental): 5
Heart attack: 11
Heat exhaustion: 1
Motorcycle accident: 5
Stabbed: 2
Struck by vehicle: 4
Training accident: 1
Vehicle pursuit: 4
Vehicular assault: 12
Weather/Natural disaster: 1


Read more: http://www.odmp.org/search/year/2011#ixzz25o2IOig6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2012 78 deaths tracked on this site so far 31 by gunfire... checked 10, none by "assault weapon"

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:43 pm
by sjfcontrol
bronco78 wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
Jesse Jackson wrote:Twenty-five percent of all police are killed by assault weapons, and they cannot defend themselves from that.
Would that be 25% of all police each year? I had no idea the death rate was anywhere near that high! :evil2:
173 LEO deaths in 2011

67 of those by gun fire.. thats %38 but hold on,,, some of those are listed as acidental..
and
I checked 20 of those reports, NONE listed the weapon type as anything that can be considered as an "assault weapon"

Total Line of Duty Deaths: 173
9/11 related illness: 6
Aircraft accident: 1
Animal related: 1
Assault: 5
Automobile accident: 35
Drowned: 4
Duty related illness: 7
Explosion: 1
Gunfire: 67
Gunfire (Accidental): 5
Heart attack: 11
Heat exhaustion: 1
Motorcycle accident: 5
Stabbed: 2
Struck by vehicle: 4
Training accident: 1
Vehicle pursuit: 4
Vehicular assault: 12
Weather/Natural disaster: 1


Read more: http://www.odmp.org/search/year/2011#ixzz25o2IOig6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2012 78 deaths tracked on this site so far 31 by gunfire... checked 10, none by "assault weapon"
I don't think you understand the point. Jesse said it's 25 % of ALL POLICE, not 25% of those killed. So, there are 36,000 police in NYC, therefore 9000 per year must be getting killed by assault weapons.

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:46 pm
by RPB
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I didn't catch the math, but found the assertion ridiculous; even considering what the author meant, though it's even more so with the way it was stated.

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:47 pm
by E.Marquez
sjfcontrol wrote:I don't think you understand the point. Jesse said it's 25 % of ALL POLICE, not 25% of those killed. So, there are 36,000 police in NYC, therefore 9000 per year must be getting killed by assault weapons.
No i understood he was making fun of a poorly worded sentence.

I was speaking to the lie the statement is regardless of the poor sentence structure used by the author.

Re: Emily Miller: Hide Your Guns

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:22 pm
by Heartland Patriot
The article references the line "an honest, open national conversation about firearms.” from the Democrat Party platform. But what that line REALLY means is "what are you willing to let us take away from you now in regards to guns?"