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I would like to learn how to harness rifle shooting by, making adjustments with a scope and iron sights etc. I can find tactical classes all day but without joining the military and becoming a sniper, or spending a lot of money with trial and error, how does one go about this?

I was shooting last year open sighted 30-30 at about 40 yards give or take I was hitting a coffee can no problems after an adjustment to the iron sights I was using. Stepped back to about maybe 75-100 or more. Couldnt hit the thing to save my life. I would just like to get a better idea behind it all.

My buddy who was in the Army wasn't doing much better. Federal 180grain ammo if that matters?

I've been focused on handgun and short-range carbine shooting for the last few years (even though I've done very little shooting)... the last time I shot at anything over 100 yards was probably almost 10 years ago, and that was most likely pointing a Mosin in the vicinity of a 200yd target and firing a couple of rounds.

Yesterday I went to the Best of the West range in Austin to sight in 4 new ARs I put together, including a 20" with an ACOG. The shooter next to me was nice enough to help me out with his spotting scope, and I got it dialed in pretty well. I was told they had steel gongs at 250 yards, so I moved over to that section, found the gongs (12" diameter) and started ringing them one after the other, consistently, with a cheap upper, cheap ammo and a lousy shooter that hadn't fired a gun in almost a year

I got bit HARD by the long range bug yesterday. Unfortunately I'm heading back to Afghanistan in a week and a half so I won't be shooting for another few months (contractor, they don't give me a gun ).

Now, to actually add to the discussion...

These guys are a bit of a drive, but I've head VERY good things about them from an ex-Marine buddy of mine and another friend who is ex-Air Force. Both have raved about the quality of instruction.

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I'll be heading for one of their classes as soon as I'm done overseas, it looks like they have their stuff squared away.

http://www.tacproshootingcenter.com/cla ... sion1.html

Primary Precision Rifle

(Requires Course Registration Form)

The Primary Precision Rifle course provides the fundamental knowledge and skills required to engage targets from immediately in front of the muzzle out to 1000 yards with first shot accuracy. Hunters, competition shooters, and military/police marksman will benefit greatly from this class. The mathematics of trajectory and range estimation and Bill's demand for one-shot accuracy for every shot fired, requires extraordinary concentration. This is the most mentally demanding class taught at Tac Pro Shooting Center.

Tac Pro is the beez kneez, and the guy who owns/runs it had a long career in British SAS. They know what they're doing out there. I haven't been able to take the time or spend the money on the fees, but I want very much to take one of these courses. They also have an advanced course.....this one being their "beginner" course.

Checkout Rifles Only down by Kingsville.

Bob Wolff wrote:Checkout Rifles Only down by Kingsville.

Where by Kingsville?

I'm 90 miles south. A nice day trip.

1s1k52 wrote:I would like to learn how to harness rifle shooting by, making adjustments with a scope and iron sights etc. I can find tactical classes all day but without joining the military and becoming a sniper, or spending a lot of money with trial and error, how does one go about this?

If there's a convenient one near you, a Project Appleseed weekend is reasonably priced and covers the fundamentals. Even if you want to spend hundreds of dollars for a precision rifle class later on, having good fundamentals going in will allow you to get that much more out of the expensive class.

Edited to add: 100 yards is not long range. Unless vision or other infirmity prevents it, 100 yards is easy after learning the basics.

tbrown wrote:

1s1k52 wrote:I would like to learn how to harness rifle shooting by, making adjustments with a scope and iron sights etc. I can find tactical classes all day but without joining the military and becoming a sniper, or spending a lot of money with trial and error, how does one go about this?

If there's a convenient one near you, a Project Appleseed weekend is reasonably priced and covers the fundamentals. Even if you want to spend hundreds of dollars for a precision rifle class later on, having good fundamentals going in will allow you to get that much more out of the expensive class.

Edited to add: 100 yards is not long range. Unless vision or other infirmity prevents it, 100 yards is easy after learning the basics.

my vision is JACKED UP I am under -14.00 in both eyes. I wear contacts to gain 20/20 and that is BARELY up until late last year I had 20/30 so yeah shooting 100 yards without the basics! One thing I have noticed any time I shoot its without someone and its plinking basically. I will look that up thanks.